Kris Martinson Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Kris...you asked a reasonable question and got responses as to what people think. Yes, we are all adults here. I think it is a bit unfair for you to ask a question and then lecture us about our responses. When I look at the projects posted and the number of religious themed ones, I would say the members here are a bit older and conservative in their view of the naked body art. I wasn't lecturing the group. Just expressing my frustration with the archaic views regarding simple, innocent, natural ART. It must be me...I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarltheScroller Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Again, I say, I will NOT post it. But I thought that we were all adults here, and that this site is about our ART. I really fail to see how Americans, in general, have such a warped perception about the human body. We all have one. How is it pornography for anyone to see the human form presented in its finest? I see the human body as beautiful, natural, even incredible. I cannot understand the objection to something that we all share. I just don't get it. The picture I did is just a simple, beautiful body. There is no "sex". It's just a beautiful subject that I view as art. Simple....? Smack me if I'm wrong. I totally agree with everything you have said. I would be with you in posting it but this site has a decidedly conservative bent and it would not be worth it. It sort of, in a very subjective way, reminds me of the long posts about atheistic sayings where some people started expressing their own religious beliefs and felt post should be in line with those beliefs. There are other places you can post the cutting; this is not the place to shake up traditional beliefs. Kris Martinson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I've got a picture of me in my y fronts if someone wants to make a pattern. :lol: :lol: Roly blights69 and Rob Roy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 One man's archaic view is another man's traditional value. Phantom Scroller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmerstutzen Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 E-gad. When i was in college, I got a subscription to "Der Stern" a German magazine much like Look, or Life magazines. It was a gift from my grandmother. Well some of the photos were definitely not safe for work back then. Guys with whole walls of playboy centerfolds could not believe some of the pictures. Such photos appeared only every five or six issues. And this magazine was considered a family magazine back in Germany. An Iranian student on our hall, told me that back home any publication with pictures showing legs above the ankle or arms above the elbow, or showing the neck, was considered obscene and the person possessing such material was punished with a whipping and prison. There was a huge black market for Playboy magazines and getting caught was good for a couple years in a very nasty prison. In the old south, plantation houses had two stairways down from the front. Men used one and women used the other. Men were not supposed to see ankles. A man took a few pictures of his infant daughter taking her first steps: The daughter was naked and although their were no frontal shots., A very prudish photo lab employee called police and demanded the man be prosecuted for child porn. A huge flap over two or three rather innocent pictures. Remember the 1969 or 1970 movie, Romeo and Juliet by Franco Zifferelli. There was a ten second boob shot of then 15 yr old Olivia Hussy as Juliet. Under the child porn laws of most states, any one who possesses that movie or distributes it may be guilty of a felony. The determining factor is whether the depiction if for the purpose of purient interest. And that is a matter for the jury which can be horribly prudish or progressive depending on the locale. Indeed one man's art can get you registered as a sex offender elsewhere. Years ago, a news report about a champion US snowboarder indicated that the guy grew up so far back in the woods, that during summer no one in the family wore clothes..There are scattered tribes of such people in tropical areas. They do not see parts of the body with the same "sexual" overtones that others do. I am not a prude. But I am shocked by some of what goes on in public sometimes. Years ago, I took my kids to a lake in western maryland. It was hot even though it was mid October. We were at the swimming beach and swimming when a group of families showed up and they all just stripped down to under pants and went in the water swimming. women and girls topless, and some of the underpants were quite transparent when wet. Not that there was anything good looking in the crowd. I gathered my kids and got in the car to leave. Just as were were backing up a couple Maryland DNR cars pulled. in and arrested the adults. At a lake/park in Lancaster county, PA there is a small cove with a grassy beach at a remote end of the lake. It is a gathering place for folks who sunbathe and swim nude. I don't go there, but recently heard a story of a group of girl scouts on a nature hike who happened upon the place. I figure if it is something I would not want my young grandkids to see, I would not post it here. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blights69 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I've got a picture of me in my y fronts if someone wants to make a pattern. :lol: :lol: Roly will I need to order a special blade as in chain saw Lol Phantom Scroller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 will I need to order a special blade as in chain saw Lol No but you'll need thick wood. Roly blights69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachi111769 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I wasn't lecturing the group. Just expressing my frustration with the archaic views regarding simple, innocent, natural ART. It must be me...I just don't get it. Kris I will tell you what I have learned about this forum.....Some of the people here are old scrollers and are easily offended by anything that has to do with the human body it is best just to post it on other forums and leave it at that I have seen the cutting I see nothing wrong with the edited version of it but than I am what I like to call myself a NEW SCHOOL scroller Pretty much nothing offends me.... Kris Martinson and blights69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Nudity doesn't always denote sexuality. And sexuality doesn't always denote pornography. I saw the picture and I thought it was quite lovely and tastefully done. The picture would be just fine here. In the end, Kris took the diplomatic route and chose not to post it publicly. Instead, he picked a different way of sharing his work. This was a good discussion. Let's get back to making sawdust and leave controversy to the funny papers. Kris Martinson, wombatie, Phantom Scroller and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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