WoodJunky

You have done a fantastic job for your first pattern will also look forward to see it when you have cut it out well done!!

Thanks Travis for your reply and it looks like I will do this as a pattern only and if I do cut it out I will place it in the user gallery You are definately right in saying "Copyright laws can be a bit fuzzy at times" Brendan

by this you mean I cannot share it as a free pattern but can I show it as a work in progress or display it in a user gallery for others to view Thanks Brendan

Thanks for the reply Messman, I understand what you are saying, for example I can take one of your patterns from the pattern library, lets choose Hitch'n A Ride and I can change some of the elements of this pattern and cut it out until the cows come home and I can even show it off online but I can't return the modified pattern to the library or distribute it for others to use. Lets get back to this pattern I am doing ,the front layer of this pattern is an elephant which is a free pattern and I can do the same as I have mentioned above and that is place a frame around it extend the grass to the edge of the frame and I can cut it out as much as I want but as soon as I add it to the layered pattern and cut that out I violate the pattern copyright law, that is correct isn't it ?? Don't worry my brain is already crazy as it is, this has actually taken me to a new level of thinking as I in a sense thought that a free pattern was a free pattern that I could do as I pleased with it.

Well ok, this sheds a totally different light on what I was going to do but that alright as this was a learning exercise for me anyway. I have briefly looked into copyrights in the past but did not think that a free pattern that I will use to make up a new pattern would be not be allowed even though I had intended to give credit to the pattern maker. Travis - So in other words its ok to use free patterns as they are but once you start modifying it, it becomes a violation of the pattern copyright law, I wasn't going to modify the pattern in anyway all I was going to do was put a frame around it and extend the grass on the pattern to edge of the frame. I guess I can still complete the layered pattern as it is a learning exercise but I can never use it

you have all given me some ideas to think about and I thank you for that Dock - I was planning to place spacer between each layer but did not think about using 2 - 4 mm thick spacers, will look into that when I have completed cutting it out as it will reduce the overall thickness. Messman - I have not yet completed the the other layers as yet, I have the designs that I would like to use but not sure if i can use them. The reason for that is and I think at this stage I will make it another question for help from anyone who will be able to answer. I am unable to create a pattern from a picture that I can use so I have found some free patterns (ie Elephant and a tree) which I should be able to create the other layers with. Now my question is am I allowed to use and modify another person free pattern for my use?. The items that I will make will not be sold but will be given as presents or gifts Travis - You think that I should leave this layer as it is you are probably right maybe that will be the way I may end up having to go with. I have made some adjustments to this layer which is attached below, now will this make the background to busy

I am in the process of designing a layered pattern. It will consist of 3 layers and it's the 3rd layer I am having problems with, I have attached what I have done so far and to me it looks incomplete. I really don't know how to improve it, some thoughts are continuing the lower lines across under the mountains, lengthening the lines from the mountain tops ??? Even though parts of it will be hidden by the other layers. Should mention the area above the mountains is all that will be cut out and the 2 layer in front of it will be a tree on the left side and an elephant on the right. I am open for suggestions for which I thank you in advance. Brendan

Nice work, Fez you have done a great job Now correct me If I am wrong, the finish is done by mixing Marble powder and acrylic paint to make a coating for you to work with and then you use a zip tie to create the texture and then a coat of clear to finish it. If so, Well done !!!

Good to hear the show was a huge success for you. definately a good idea for you to show people what a scrollsaw is. When I have talked to people it is like talking in a different language when you mention that you use a scrollsaw and explain what it does and how it works

OK that's good to hear so it will be setup the same as what we are doing now, each person post a message and we all get the opportunity to respond to that post and still participate in the discussions. Thanks Travis for the reply

I am definately interested in participating in this class as well. Pattern making is something I would definately like to learn. Travis, you mentioned that the real value would be to participate as the class is in progress, I totally agree with you there but for me that would be hard to do as I am in a different time zone (Australian Central Standard Time). Would there be a way for me to view the discussion and ideas from the classes ?

I've been a guest to this forum for short time now and I thought it was about time I joined up. I have been scroll sawing part time for a couple of years now and from what I have seen here so far and what i will see in the future will give me a wealth of information and ideas. It is really good to see a dedicated scrolling forum Brendan