Multifasited Posted December 8, 2014 Report Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) The angle of the of the blade to the table ( YOUR CHOICE) based on what your trying to accomplish ! That is the key ,( table to blade angle !) I used a mechanical angle finder contacted both the table and the blade ,hard to read (alot of set and reset -read reset ) till your chosen angle was reached ,I just bought a magnetic Johnson angle finder with a nice easy to read dial ! $10.00 happy only for a minute ,that mistic something is wrong feeling creap in my head (as you get older ,you listen to those better ) the old way was always right ,why was this different ? DUH ! So ,I checked the blade to table angle with my small machinest sq. tightenen her down and found the magnetic angle finder on the table in front of the blade was minus 1 1/2 degrees left of center , Which ment the saw is not completely level . Lesson learned (If your saw is not level side to side exactly ) a table angle finder will mislead you ,my saw is not off but a fraction ,but,still will make a big difference if you are going to press fit raises and lowering like I do ,those of you who remember geonometry know about what effect it will have . surest way is to continue the old method does not care if the saw is dead level,and use the new one after saw is really level acording to the angle finder ,with the blade and table sq. to each other ! Mine is mounted on non adjustable hard rubber feet on house floor , I can not Imagine how far off a concrete poured floor is. If you don't tilt your table (NO WORRIES) if you do ,well you know the rest ! Great Idea ,just not well thought through .But I learned something ,and I guess that is progress! Sheesh! Edited December 8, 2014 by Multifasited Quote
oldhudson Posted December 8, 2014 Report Posted December 8, 2014 Maybe I haven't read you post carefuly but I'm confused? If you have a digital angle finder you should be able to "zero" it out on the surface of the table, then attach it to the blade with the magnet and adjust the angle of the blade until it reads the angle you are trying to set 22.5° or 45° or 90° or whatever. It should not matter if the table is level, what's important is the relationship between the table and blade - not the table to the floor. At least that's the way it works with my Wixey angle finder. The digital angle finder is one of those 'new' tools that can really improve the accuracy of a home workshop. Good luck with this! LarryEA, Scrolling Steve and Jim Finn 3 Quote
Multifasited Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Maybe I haven't read you post carefuly but I'm confused? If you have a digital angle finder you should be able to "zero" it out on the surface of the table, then attach it to the blade with the magnet and adjust the angle of the blade until it reads the angle you are trying to set 22.5° or 45° or 90° or whatever. It should not matter if the table is level, what's important is the relationship between the table and blade - not the table to the floor. At least that's the way it works with my Wixey angle finder. The digital angle finder is one of those 'new' tools that can really improve the accuracy of a home workshop. Good luck with this! This is not digital ,this is more G.P. carpentry about 5"x5" thats why it was only 10 bucks ,I have not looked up a digital because of my precieved thought of the cost ! this kind the floor the floor counts no adjustments ,it's a JOHNSON magnetic protractor angle finder HD special , were on a beans and rice diet around here w/medical expenses and just S.S. ,not whining ,just stating facts . The one you have sounds lovely ,but I think out of my budget ,like I said it's the blade to the table ,but with this type your going off the table solely . Edited December 9, 2014 by Multifasited Quote
oldhudson Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 This is not digital ,this is more G.P. carpentry about 5"x5" thats why it was only 10 bucks ,I have not looked up a digital because of my precieved thought of the cost ! this kind the floor the floor counts no adjustments ,it's a JOHNSON magnetic protractor angle finder HD special , were on a beans and rice diet around here w/medical expenses and just S.S. ,not whining ,just stating facts . The one you have sounds lovely ,but I think out of my budget ,like I said it's the blade to the table ,but with this type your going off the table solely . I get it now. The Wixey is about $40. There's another manufacturer but I don't remember their name, but I thought they were a bit less. You'll have to look for a sale at Rockler or Woodcraft or even a big box store. Quote
Multifasited Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Posted December 9, 2014 I am sure digital is more accurate ,are they in .000 ,I guess I should just look them up ! I was hopeing for a cheap better way ,and thought I'd pass along to others with similar situations . Thanks for the response and the tip! Quote
Southern Scroller Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Harbor Freight has a digital angle guage for $30, maybe even cheaper on sale in their stores. http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-angle-gauge-95998.html I have the $5 model from HF. Works well for me but I'm not building fine furniture. http://www.harborfreight.com/dial-gauge-angle-finder-34214.html For 90 degrees on my scroll saw I just use a piece of 2x4, cut, turn over, cut, check. Cut twice, measure once? amazingkevin 1 Quote
Jim Finn Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Anyone use this one from Grizzly? http://www.grizzly.com/products/AngleCube-2-Digital-Level-Bevel/T21562 It is cheap and uses a nine volt battery. I have a wixie and it works well but eats up the lipoly batteries quickly. I wonder if the Grizzly one works well. Quote
oldhudson Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 Anyone use this one from Grizzly? http://www.grizzly.com/products/AngleCube-2-Digital-Level-Bevel/T21562 It is cheap and uses a nine volt battery. I have a wixie and it works well but eats up the lipoly batteries quickly. I only put batteries in if I intend to use it, otherwise I tape them to the outside of the gauge with painters tape. Quote
JustLarry Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 This one works for me. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wixey Larry Quote
Jim Finn Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 I only put batteries in if I intend to use it, otherwise I tape them to the outside of the gauge with painters tape. That is what I do also but it is kinda' silly to have to do that in my opinion. Quote
Multifasited Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Posted December 9, 2014 all shown ,should work well ,thanks for the tip on the batteries ,Maybe santa ! Quote
marter1229 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Posted December 10, 2014 How about a smart phone app? Quote
Multifasited Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Posted December 10, 2014 I have a armour plated Samsung (dumb phone )! Still smarter than me! Quote
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