Well I showed the lady the 3 patterns you kindly made for me and she was not happy (you just can't please some folk) so I said I would give it one more try so I used a bit of each one plus a bit of my own work and would you credit it she loved it , To me it looks like a gremlin lol but hey if she's happy what the heck so thank you for your contribution, I bet you've never made a pattern that 4 people put together, great work and thanks again.......Paul