Thank you all for the welcome.
Ike, Goshen is about 4 1/2 hours from Canton
Lawson56 , I have asked for a pattern converted from a picture of my inlaws and had great help, posted the result which i thought came out pretty nice.
A.K. , I have made lots of saw dust piles lol , some with good results, some with not so good. But i am learning this hobby is sometimes trial and error