King scroll saw

[rjweb]

I received woodcraft sale booklet today, and they have the King 22" scroll  saw on sale for $449.00 with a free stand sounds like a good deal for anyone getting started in the hobby, RJ

[kmmcrafts]

23 minutes ago, rjweb said:

I received woodcraft sale booklet today, and they have the King 22" scroll  saw on sale for $449.00 with a free stand sounds like a good deal for anyone getting started in the hobby, RJ

I didn't know King made a 22" saw like this. Last I knew they had a 21" that replaced the Excalibur back during when the Excalibur went to be made in the China factory.. This King is way cheaper than it used to be.. I really have to wonder if they sold the King name to that China company. You can't seem to find a new Excalibur anymore like you used to.. The word got around that they were junk after China started making them.. I would almost bet that they now have the King name.. Hopefully they're made better than the Excalibur was. Just a couple years ago the 21" King was priced right there with the Pegas and others.. now they're somehow only in the $500 - 600 price range and on sale for $450.. seems a bit sketchy to me considering they were nearly $1000 just a couple years ago.. prices aren't going down like that.. more like going up.. so  if I were a betting man I'd say this is a China knockoff.. I see it also comes with free stand, LOL.. Too good to be true deal there if it's not made in that China factory.

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

I thought King was a Canadian saw and the excaliper which is same saw was American/ China.

OK what am I not getting here? Something is fishy.

Their 22" saw is $449 and their 16" is $749. I bet it is the other way around. And you get a free stand with purchase. My goodness. That is a $130 extra.I see the 16" is not available any more. Even if this is China made that beats all their other China made saws they are selling. Including the Dewalt. It says they are made in Taiwan from what I can find out.  

 

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/king-industrial-22-scroll-saw?variant=46242636595338&gclsrc=3p.ds&msclkid=a5fb64a9548311ca1f410d8f21b8238e&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PMax | Feed Only | tROAS 1500 | Relaunch 15%2F09%2F2025&utm_term=2331514407219523&utm_content=Current Asset Variation

Edited November 26, 2025 by JTTHECLOCKMAN

[kmmcrafts]

14 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

I thought King was a Canadian saw and the excaliper which is same saw was American/ China.

OK what am I not getting here? Something is fishy.

Their 22" saw is $449 and their 16" is $749. I bet it is the other way around. And you get a free stand with purchase. My goodness. That is a $130 extra.I see the 16" is not available any more. Even if this is China made that beats all their other China made saws they are selling. Including the Dewalt. It says they are made in Taiwan from what I can find out.  

 

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/king-industrial-22-scroll-saw?variant=46242636595338&gclsrc=3p.ds&msclkid=a5fb64a9548311ca1f410d8f21b8238e&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PMax | Feed Only | tROAS 1500 | Relaunch 15%2F09%2F2025&utm_term=2331514407219523&utm_content=Current Asset Variation

I noticed the 16" price too.. I'll also note that the 16 looks to be made just like the Excalibur with the dust port holes in the table and the power switch and speed control is like the Pegas and others but not on the 22" saw it's altogether different. .. The 22" appears to have a larger table kinda like the Harbor Freight saw.. and I don't see any dust port. I would bet the 16" is the older version as that was always the price of the smaller saw.. Like I said.. prices don't just go backwards like that.. they have changed manufactures is my guess.. Also looking at the zoomed in photo I see it has the arm lock button at the back of the saw much like the Harbor Freight saw.. Looks like the same saw as the HF saw other than color.. Look close at the Rikon too.. It's not the old King saw that came out back around 2017 that was the same as a Excalibur for sure... not at that price it's not anyway.  I would say it's a HF saw with King stickers and color.. Might as well go to HF and get it a little cheaper if you're going that route. At least HF you can return it.. as they have a pretty good return policy..

[barb.j.enders]

I have a King 22" Professional.  On the saw itself it says Excelisor.  I bought it a couple of years ago for around $1200 including the stand.  It was a demo model which was discounted.  This is from the King Canada website.  They seem to only have three scroll saws.  https://www.kingcanada.com/en/products/woodworking/scroll-saws/

[kmmcrafts]

Excelisor was also considered a good Excalibur replacement when General International shut down... and they came up with the same saw with several different brand names.. I suppose it's possible that these are still great well made saws but I find that hard to believe with the low price point they went backwards to. Pegas came out the gate strong and took over the market.. Maybe these other brands were forced to lower the prices? Don't know but you can't find a new Excalibur named saw now.. The King and others have changed up the design from a 21" saw to a new 22" saw and lowered the prices considerably.. Also making a squeeze on these brands is the cheaper Rikon and Harbor Freight models.. These all look like the same saw now days and I suspect they are, with just different colors and names. 

[Juan Rodriguez]

It looks a lot like the Bauer!