Len, I cut this out of the waste area on a Eisenhower, so it is nickel plated, and pretty thick. This kind of cutting is not tedious, let me tell you. Lose focus for a few seconds and it's ruined. SInce this was cut from an Eisenhower, the bigger coin had a lot to hold on to, so it was by hand. If I were cutting an actual penny, I would superglue that penny to larger piece of wood, which is the very best jig for any coin cutting. The jigs you see Steve Good use are worthless for detail cutting because the center of the coin is unsupported. In this case, where the pattern is not round, it would even be more useless. CA glue and a thin scrape of wood, all you would ever need.