Wilson142

I've been messing with this for some time now. I have a small stack of diagrams as to how I wanted to setup my dust collection system. None of them met with total approval so off to the hardware store I went. Half way there not only did I notice I hadn't brought any of my plans, I had left home without my glasses! So, after squinting my way through the fittings and adapters I headed home armed with a length of 3/4" pvc pipe and one of 1", along with a bag of assorted fittings etc.I decided I was overthinking this thing and decided to just go for it. My only hard fast rule was, I wanted a limited amount of 90 degree turns and I wanted a friction fit instead of glued so I could modify it and be able to easily disassemble incase of the inevitable clogs. I knew I wanted the upper pickup to be of 3/4" Loc-Line and I had already purchased some from Amazon. $11 and because I've had the struggle with the small one that comes with the saw, I opted for the pliers. $14. Glad I did! I may never use it again but 3/4" Loc-Line is pretty stout. So after mounting that side, I modified a Y, a pc of 1" pvc and a reducer for the cyclone side. I had a length of vac hose I had used to add length to my shop vac and because it is very flexible I used it for the upper pickup to the cyclone. I made a homemade screen for the upper pickup. The Dewalt table doesn't have a completely flat underside so, I used 3 small magnets from Harbor Freight that are approximately 1/4" x 3/4" x 2" ($.99 for 2) to put in the pie shaped indents on the bottom of the table. That brought the lower pickup hose high enough to stay relatively in place near the blade. I did have to add a tie off to keep it from swiveling if I bumped it. I very happy with the setup!! Nearly 95% dust pickup. The only changes I'd like to make is to replace the upper and lower pickup lines with clear ones so it's easy to see any clogs. I tried clear vinyl hose but at that diameter they are far too stiff. I may check a Medical Supply place for the clear lines.

Are you looking for a way to simply move it out of the way to make room in the space it currently is? I was at Harbor Freight the other day and was looking at moving pads that go under the legs, sit flat on the floor and make it easy to slide around. I may buy a set so I can move my saw to another spot in my shop occasionally. Obviously if steps are involved that wouldn't work but sometimes keeping it simple works.

Really nice piece. One of my favorite blues musicians. I also cut a lot of Charles Dearing, Charles Hand and Mike Williams. I usually reduce to the size of wood I have. Lately I have been cutting everything from 3/8" BB because I like the look and I find I don't have to be quite so fussy about sanding the fuzzies because they aren't nearly as apparent on the thicker wood. We could be brothers by a different mother, I just ordered a gross each of Pegus 2/0 and #1spirals lol

I do a lot of intricate fretwork and I was worried about removal issues with the shelf liner. In my experience I find that in the fine areas, the paper comes off quite easily because there is far less area for it to stick to. The areas that are larger and have fewer holes are harder to remove than the rest. I don't precoat my wood but, I do sand and tack cloth the surface before applying the liner. I always sand the back before removing the paper.

Agreed. You can almost hear a soft low growl deep in his throat.

Nice video. Much larger scale than what I do. I follow pretty much the same for puzzles and such. When I cut intricate fretwork patterns such as Charles Hand or Charles Dearing with anywhere from 300 holes to 500 or more, I add a layer of packing tape over the top. Overkill you say? The panic I feel when cutting delicate areas and seeing the pattern beginning to lift is worth the extra time. Like the Cookin' Cajun, Justin Wilson used to say." I wear both a belt and suspenders because you can never be too careful" I cut for myself and gifting and I'm always impressed by you guys who can cut as many hours you do and cutting all those multiples. I don't think I could do it. Looks like a nicely laid out shop! Mike "

. I know they have 3/4" Y's but I want to split it at the port that goes from the cyclone to the underside of the table. That is quite large, maybe 11/2" or so. I have no need to split the LocLine. I need a way to add a 3/4" to the larger port. Say a Y with a base large enough to fit the cyclone and one leg the size of the existing hose and the other leg a size I can reduce for the top collection tube.

I had several magnets laying around that I bought at the local hardware store. They were very inexpensive and have really good holding power. They are approximately 1/4" x 1/2" x 2". At any rate I was able to place 3 side by side in one of those little sort of pie shaped spots under the table. That raised the hose nozzle slightly above those little cross bridges on the table. I did have to use a small wire to place around the hose and tied it off on the curved angle gauge for tilting the table. The wire is easy to unhook but I needed it because when I bumped the hose it would want to sort of swivel around. After that, the bottom pickup worked like a charm! It caught easily 90% of the saw dust. I'll post a picture later if you still need help. I have to admit, I was disappointed in the noise level and the fact that the hose/magnet setup was designed for a totally flat table but after the magnets and the little wire, I'm pretty impressed.

Actually with this setup the most noise I get is from the exhaust end of the vac. The pickup for the bottom seems quiet enough and I did stick a 1/2" od vinyl hose in the hole in the hose tube (I think it's there so you can adjust the vac suction because it has a collar that turns to open or close) and placed it opposite the blower. It worked to a point but not as much suction as I'd like. Not looking for silent run (would be nice) but 50% reduction would be great. I may be dreaming. lol

Yeah, I'm searching for a Y locally because then I know it will fit, I've seen some that look like they'd work but they are in boat supply places for bilge or water removal purposes (I think). Not many boat supply stores here in the desert. I won't cut into the hose because it's too thin for my comfort. I may tap into the cyclone tube itself just ahead of the existing tube. I think I can safely go 3/4". I plan to run sched. 40 pvc to the saw and I ordered 3/4" Loc-Line with nozzle for the side opposite the Dewalt blower. I did see a setup online that worked good enough to not even use the bellows blower but I like the idea of having the option to use both. The vac is louder than I hoped but it is 4" diameter (give or take) and I'm going to try putting a 4" pvc elbow over the exhaust end, run approx. 22" to the floor with straight pc add another elbow and a short straight pc that will run along the floor and away from the front of the saw. then I'm going to play with some baffle type material for sound deadening without restricting the exhaust flow. I don't want to put it in a cabinet due to size restrictions and heat build up.Pvc is cheap and easy to work with so if it's a failure no big deal.

Can't help but that is a really nice piece!! How large is it?

Nice cutting. I have both of those patterns and just finished his Night Hawk pattern. Charles Hand is a really talented pattern maker. One hole at a time. After an hour or so, I have to leave those tiny holes and cut some large portions or all the blade loading gets boring. I have been cutting those from 3/8" BB to avoid breakouts and then I don't have to be quite so picky about the fuzzies because they aren't as obvious. Very nice job on both of those!

Have any of you Seyco Dust Collector owners found a good way for upper table dust removal? Where are you attaching the extra hose? I have been looking for a Y attachment adapter to use on the cyclone pickup end with little success locally and I'm not opposed to drilling a hole in the collector but thought I'd ask before I do. I'm thinking of adding a diy muffler to the vac because it is a bit louder than I'd like. I have the Dewalt and found by adding 3 small rectangular magnets to the table underside (because the bottom isn't totally flat) gives me more "sticking action" and because they are around 1/4" thick, they bring the nozzle more inline with the blade. Seems to do a fine job of removal on the bottom side so far. Mike

I like them both. The scrolled one looks a bit crisper and perhaps slightly more detailed. Which one cut faster? Am I correct in assuming using the router would allow for much larger pieces than a scroll saw? Does the noise of the router make your neighbors wonder if you've taken up Dentistry??

You mean you were just being sarcastic??? Bummer, I just ordered one.

Point well made! I mean when you close the refrigerator door, you assume the light goes off but does it? lol

Yeah. I lost my mother just after New Years. She was 100 and 2 months old. Still pretty good mentally but the body lets down eventually.

Exactly!! It's like wine recommendations, the best wine for you is the one "you" like.

Yeah, my family was full of old wisdoms(?) My dad would say "listen to your elders, you may learn something" Then my mother would add "Just remember, Mike. There's a reason for the old saying "there's no fool like an old fool". I spent a lot of my youth looking off into the distance wondering "What????"

My step dad always told to never forget that no matter how smart I get, there will always be a lot more that I don't know, than I do know.

Did you know that the gentlemen who was building a home made rocket to prove the earth is flat, died this weekend in a crash in his test flight? Rather bizarre, I had just noticed Amazon Prime Video had just made a movie about him available. Name was 'Mad' Mike Hughes. Nice cutting, anyway.

I had already ordered the Seyco before reading octoolguy's post. I was tempted to cancel but thought $80 for the vac, maybe $20 for a cyclone work around, $10-$20 in tubing and $15-$20 for the switch for auto run, it amounts to $60 or so to be lazy. Although I was tempted to buy the Scrollnado, I have lots of leftover tubing, elbows and even some valves to control the upper dust collection portion, left from my drip irrigration system. Should be setup by the end of the week, Texas isn't that far from me. On the down side, octoolguy will have the all of the attachments for using his unit in his car.

I'm tempted to pair this system with the Scrollnado. Any thoughts?

I turn the blade sometimes, other times I straighten it with a needle nose. I find if I pay attention when I clamp the blade I can feel whether it is flat in the holder or sort of sideways and I adjust it. Ones it is hockey sticked I feel like I'm living on borrowed time. Really nice cut though. I am going through a 3/8" BB faze myself. Bought a full sheet because I like the look of the thicker pieces.

Congrats! I'm interested in what you come up with to collect from the top also.