Thanks for the reply . I usually go no thinner than 1/2 " for all my fretwork projects so i guess what you are saying is to get kiln dried wood for starters. I guess I have to find an honest broker that sells live edge wood. BTW I always use natural hardwood for all my cutouts and I use baltic birch as a backer. I can get white pine but I find it breaks easily especially for advanced fretwork projects that I have made so that's why I stick to using hardwood because its much stronger and it soaks the tung oil finish extremely well that I use for a finish on most of my fretwork pieces.