Clamp Renewal Kit

[barb.j.enders]

I have a DeWalt 788 with the Pegas clamp attached.  I have been experiencing a lot of blade slippage so I contacted Bearwoods for suggestions.  They recommended the clamp renewal kit.  Other than Bearwood and Seyco, is there anyone else, preferably in Canada, that supplies this?  This is the link to Seyco for what I am asking about.  https://www.seyco.com/quick-clamp-renewal-kit/.  

[kmmcrafts]

Might try the dealers that sell the King brand saw or other Excalibur type saw dealers.. I'm not aware of anyone other than Bearwoods and Seyco though.. Dewalt uses the same pieces.. but I've never seen them offer the kit.. they just sell you a whole new thumb screw.. .. But maybe cheaper if you can find it local so you don't have shipping charges.. 

I'd like to find the source for those rotating pins.. because these companies aren't making them special for these saws... somewhere they are used for something else.. Hegner also uses them.. but I've never seen a source other than Ray and Bear wood.. unless I buy the whole thumb screw.. 

I use my Dewalt screws in the Pegas clamp on my Excalibur because I didn't like the style of the plastic wing on the Pegas thumb screw.

  

[John B]

@Denny Knappen Denny may be able to help. He is an agent for Pegas.

 

[don in brooklin on]

Have you taken out the clamps and made sure that they are clean and the end moves.

The take them an run over a flat piece of sand paper.

Shelia Landy has a post on cleaning clamps http://sheilalandrydesigns.com/free-pattern/scroll-saw-blade-clamp-maintenance/

 

 

[dgman]

Barb, go over to WORKS IN PROGRESS & TUTORIALS. I have a post titled SIMPLE JIG FOR BLADE SLIPPAGE. It shows how to renew the tips of any thumb screw including Pegas, DeWALT, Delta, EX and all clones.

[barb.j.enders]

6 hours ago, dgman said:

Barb, go over to WORKS IN PROGRESS & TUTORIALS. I have a post titled SIMPLE JIG FOR BLADE SLIPPAGE. It shows how to renew the tips of any thumb screw including Pegas, DeWALT, Delta, EX and all clones.

Thanks. Will do.

[barb.j.enders]

6 hours ago, don in brooklin on said:

Have you taken out the clamps and made sure that they are clean and the end moves.

The take them an run over a flat piece of sand paper.

Shelia Landy has a post on cleaning clamps http://sheilalandrydesigns.com/free-pattern/scroll-saw-blade-clamp-maintenance/

 

 

Thanks for the info!

[barb.j.enders]

Update - I have put my DeWalt thumb screws in while checking around for other options.  Realize that I like the feel of them much better than the Pegas.  On Kevin's suggestion, I looked up King, found a local supplier and called them.  They were very helpful 2 years ago when I took my saw in for work, so I gave Blair a call.  I first asked about the DeWalt replacement knobs. Blair said that DeWalt is very slow for shipping at this time.   I found the part number for the King brand and provided that for him.  He is able to order them in.  The price is just over $2.  I have ordered 6!  Hopefully they fit.  It will be about a week for them to arrive.  I don't believe there will be any shipping charge. Yeah me!!!

[kmmcrafts]

Glad to hear you was able to find the needed parts.. I'm pretty certain the parts will fit.. If you like the DeWalt screws better maybe you should have ordered a set of those just to swap out the screws.. They sure ( in my opinion ) are more comfortable on my hands.. I'm not really sure why but they are for me.. I thought maybe because I used the DW for 10-12 years and became accustom to them.. But even the Hawk screws are better.. seems like the Pegas brand ones are too big and also smooth finish on them I just don't care for them..  Maybe Pegas should survey and see who else would rather have the DeWalt style screws.. and I bet consensus would be they'd switch to the other style..   

[OCtoolguy]

I webt from Dewalt to Ex then to Pegas but never was bothered by any of them. I must be numb in my thumbs. Lol.

[barb.j.enders]

21 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Glad to hear you was able to find the needed parts.. I'm pretty certain the parts will fit.. If you like the DeWalt screws better maybe you should have ordered a set of those just to swap out the screws.. They sure ( in my opinion ) are more comfortable on my hands.. I'm not really sure why but they are for me.. I thought maybe because I used the DW for 10-12 years and became accustom to them.. But even the Hawk screws are better.. seems like the Pegas brand ones are too big and also smooth finish on them I just don't care for them..  Maybe Pegas should survey and see who else would rather have the DeWalt style screws.. and I bet consensus would be they'd switch to the other style..   

The DeWalt thumb screws are essentially brand new.  A year and 1/2 ago the saw was replaced by DeWalt.  First thing I did was put the Pegas clamps on it, so I never used the thumb screws.  

[Rolf]

On 7/4/2020 at 9:10 AM, barb.j.enders said:

I have a DeWalt 788 with the Pegas clamp attached.  I have been experiencing a lot of blade slippage so I contacted Bearwoods for suggestions.  They recommended the clamp renewal kit.  Other than Bearwood and Seyco, is there anyone else, preferably in Canada, that supplies this?  This is the link to Seyco for what I am asking about.  https://www.seyco.com/quick-clamp-renewal-kit/.  

How many hours do you have on those clamps that they are giving you issues? have you taken the parts out and taken a close look to see if they are worn and if so how are they worn i.e. rounded grooved ? Curious people like to know "me".

Edited July 11, 2020 by Rolf

[barb.j.enders]

On 7/11/2020 at 8:25 AM, Rolf said:

How many hours do you have on those clamps that they are giving you issues? have you taken the parts out and taken a close look to see if they are worn and if so how are they worn i.e. rounded grooved ? Curious people like to know "me".

Not sure how many hours on the "bad" clamps.  I had bought them maybe a couple of years ago.  Had issues with that DeWalt, got a new machine early 2019 and put the Pegas clamps on it right away.  I scroll maybe 8 - 10 hours a week.  Was a little more this past spring  !  I would say it was time to fix.  Put the DeWalt screws in and didn't have any slipage in the few cuts I did!

[jeffg23]

The most common problem is that the end of the screw is rounded over instead of flat. So when you clamp it down, it is not making full contact with the blade.   Sometimes it works to just turn the screw a quarter turn, other times you just need to file the end of the screw with a fine file. Does not take much to fix it. The other problem is that the screw head may not be sticking out far enough into the clamp face.

[Norm Fengstad]

All these suggestions are worth looking into, Garnet Hall at Saw Bird.com operates out of Estevan, Saskatchewan I think he has just taken on the Pegas line

[barb.j.enders]

On 7/17/2020 at 4:18 PM, Norm Fengstad said:

All these suggestions are worth looking into, Garnet Hall at Saw Bird.com operates out of Estevan, Saskatchewan I think he has just taken on the Pegas line

If he has the Pegas line, good to know.  I ordered spiral blades from him earlier this year.  Found the ends through the service center that replaced my DeWalt in 2018/19.  Have some on order.  Just waiting for the phone call.

[Clem's woodies]

Bear Woods Supply in Canada    is     https://www.woodparts.ca

They are located in Langley BC Canada  , they list Pegas blades, saw and blade holder kit

Convenient for me  , 10 minute drive and pick up order.

Excellent customer service , fast shipping .

Gord

 

 

[barb.j.enders]

1 hour ago, Clem's woodies said:

Bear Woods Supply in Canada    is     https://www.woodparts.ca

They are located in Langley BC Canada  , they list Pegas blades, saw and blade holder kit

Convenient for me  , 10 minute drive and pick up order.

Excellent customer service , fast shipping .

Gord

Gord,  I have not been impressed with BearWoods.  The first time I tried ordering blades and suggested an alternate way of shipping, the staff person was quite rude.  I priced their replacement parts with another company and they were twice a as expensive.  As much as I prefer dealing with a Canadian company, I  do not like dealing with BearWoods. 

[don in brooklin on]

Barb you are not alone with Bear Woods shipping costs on blades.  I had the same conversation about shipping.

I can order blades from suppliers in USA and the cost is just over about $5- 6 a doz. in  Cdn funds.  From Bear Woods the cost was over $10. 

The difference is the $12 P&H and the HST on top. 

I would like to support Canadian suppliers but the mark up by Bear Woods is a lot.  

I ordered just over a week ago from Denny at Artcrafters and 6 dozen is $39 Cdn.  Haven't got them yet but everything is screwed up with Canada Post so I am not surprised.

 

 

[barb.j.enders]

2 hours ago, don in brooklin on said:

Barb you are not alone with Bear Woods shipping costs on blades.  I had the same conversation about shipping.

I can order blades from suppliers in USA and the cost is just over about $5- 6 a doz. in  Cdn funds.  From Bear Woods the cost was over $10. 

The difference is the $12 P&H and the HST on top. 

I would like to support Canadian suppliers but the mark up by Bear Woods is a lot.  

I ordered just over a week ago from Denny at Artcrafters and 6 dozen is $39 Cdn.  Haven't got them yet but everything is screwed up with Canada Post so I am not surprised.

 

 

I ordered from Denny as well.  His arrived in a nice padded envelop. In my first experience with Bear Woods, I was told that they knew more about shipping than I did!  Took me a long time to deal with them again.  

[kmmcrafts]

My first and only order from Bear Woods it took 4 weeks to get my blades.. I had placed an order the same day with DnD and received my blades in 3 days.. NOW, I realize that BW was in Canada and didn't expect them to be just days.. BUT, My issue was.. they didn't even get the blades packaged and ready to drop in the mail until nearly 3 weeks after I placed my order.. I never got any message about anything being back ordered or anything.. Maybe a fluke thing but with getting no message about it at all kinda made me mad.. 

Then the blades was defective that I did purchase from them... ( back when Pegas ran a bad batch of blades ) and it was like 3 months later that I found out the blades was bad.. I contacted BW with my order number and receipt and they was really quite good about it and sent out replacements right away.. The replacements made it in just a few days... so I like to think that one time with the wait was just a fluke thing.. That said.. I also like to support my local USA business so I'll likely not order from BW again unless the USA suppliers are out of stock on something and BW has it... which was the reason I ordered them that first time, LOL 

[Kepy]

I have the Pegas saw and I was having the same problem.  I took the knob out and held the end with pliers to see that it was turning.  One of them seemed to be sticking so I just kept working it and they seem to be working b etter.  I think sometimes a problem is caused when we try to tighten the clamp to much.

[barb.j.enders]

Well, it turns out the parts are on backorder.  Not sure when they will come in.  Apparently they are on "a slow boat from China"   

[Carl civitella]

On 7/17/2020 at 11:06 AM, jeffg23 said:

The most common problem is that the end of the screw is rounded over instead of flat. So when you clamp it down, it is not making full contact with the blade.   Sometimes it works to just turn the screw a quarter turn, other times you just need to file the end of the screw with a fine file. Does not take much to fix it. The other problem is that the screw head may not be sticking out far enough into the clamp face.

Also wipe the ends of the blade, manufactures coat the blade with oil for

shiping.