Thanks BOB, it's worn out, but i repacked all the bearings i could get out (2 i could not) with valvolene synthetic grease and it took up the sloppy tolerances greatly to where i can do coins and delicate fret work again and i packed them a year ago. the factory should pack them with this ,i believe the dw788 would run forever :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: