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Thank you, I knew I seen it before.. I been searching through my list a pattern places etc and had not found it.. Got my copy now..

I agree.. years ago on the forums I was on there was some folks buying the Delta P-20 and the Q3 scroll saws and then Delta went belly up or was bought out and they stopped making scroll saws.. there was at least a half dozen folks that had issues with the saws still under warranty and the parts was no longer available.. Only thing Delta offered was a discount on a few new saws still left in circulation which was the lower end 16" saw they had a lot of trouble with.. .. so in my mind.. the 5 year warranty on their current new saw is probably about as good as how far you can pick the saw up and throw it... That all said though.. I'm pretty sure Delta was bought out by some other company and this may not be the case any more?? I'd still be cautious with their tools though.. unless you're getting a real bargain like free or close to that with no expectations..

Ray, what is the part number? Sometimes I find odd parts or a superseded number by searching the part number.. sometimes it takes some digging.. I do agree with you 100% about Delta.. which is why I don't deal with anything Delta made new or used.. same deal with my Delta jointer... lucky for me I was able to bypass the Variable speed... but otherwise it would just go to a landfill..

I like that.. I'll have to look on the 5 different computers I have to see if I have that somewhere.. I feel like I've seen this somewhere before.. maybe one of the FB groups? I'd like to get a copy if I don't already have it..

All my things are stored in the loft of my un-heated shop.. All are either already packaged or in storage drawers / totes... I've never had any issues..

Thanks Ray, I think I might purchase one.. maybe not for the drill press but I'm sure I'd use it on many other things anyway..

I agree with everything you say.. and many times it's not the people that is suing.. it's the insurance companies trying to re-coop their money from a payout.. When my son was 3 years old he was playing with a toy sward and got in a office chair and was standing up getting ready to jump.. wife was cleaning and had her back to him but turned around just about the time he was getting ready to jump.. she tried to get over to him before it all happen but the chair spun on him and he lost his balance and fell.. Broke his arm.. Take him to the ER and have a whole big book of papers to fill out on that.. then several months later a letter come in the mail to fill out all kinds of stuff from the insurance company.. Chair brand model etc etc.. apparently the insurance company was trying to sue the chair maker for the money they lost.. I don't know that to be true.. but the info we had to send in sure made it sound like that.. So my point is... it's not just the individuals out there looking to sue... the insurance companies do that ALL the time now days.. it's just standard procedures for them now...

He's actually a very nice dog.. and more scared of visitors than anything.. he won't get close to them when they open the door of the car... but he is really aggressive "acting" and very big which make him intimidating.. and he doesn't even get close enough to bite someone.. just a lot of barking... But.. that said.. if he senses trouble I do believe he'd protect himself or his humans, LOL But yeah.. I do keep my insurance paid up.. as you never know what might happen.. not just because of the dog.. but someone slipping in the driveway in the snow and ice we get in the winter.. Also have signs all over beware of the dog.. etc etc..

For the door to door people if my Great Dane is outside they typically stay in their car.. he is pretty aggressive as he was a rescue dog that I'm pretty sure was abused.. and if they are driving a car.. usually have to look up out the car window at him.. LOL.. most trucks he is eye level with you.. Nobody has been brave enough to get out yet until I put him in.. I also make sure that i tell the main delivery drivers not to get out if my main door to the house is open.. as he knows how to open the screen door.. One time he herd a neighbor raise his voice to me ( just saying hi ) but the dog thought otherwise.. and he took out the whole screen door to my sliding door.. Messed up bad enough I had to get a new one, LOL Real good dog once he knows whoever here is okay..

I agree.. and the price of the Dremel one is more along the lines of $30.. But.. looking around on eBay and Amazon.. I have found a couple around $22 - 25.. I'd certainly pay the little extra for the quality made one JT mentioned..

That is what I was thinking too.. I seen a review that Steve Good did on it..

I've done some of the bigger ( wall clocks ) this way.. but only because the back side isn't visible to anyone else and ease of access to change time / battery... But I would rather not see a hole on the back side of a desk clock really.. Just my opinion I guess.. It is an option though for someone that doesn't make many clocks and don't really want to spend big money on a forestner bit...

Just seen this post ( I don't look in this forum much ) and thought I'd share how I make my clocks... I use a tool ( not sure what they are called ) awl? It's like a short screw driver but is very pointed on the end.. I believe it's an awl.. and I center it with the dot or X that in on the pattern and make a tiny dent to mark the spot.. then I look to see it's actually in the center.. if so then I use the tool again and push it in for a deeper.. just helps in finding that little dipped area on my old eyes in finding the center.. Oh and yeah I drill the holes last.. some very fragile ones I sometimes will put the clock back into the original cutout board to help hold it in place.. Make sure to buy a high end forestner bit.. they make a world of difference.. I received a gift of a set of forestner bits and brand new out of the box was worst then the dull high end one LOL..

Let me know how you like it.. I watched the review Steve Good did and he mentioned it had quite a bit of run out on it.. so I was thinking it might not be accurate enough for drilling the small hose where I need the tiny veining in projects.. My drill press is a crap shoot as to where the drill will actually go once it hits the wood.. been getting buy with it for a lot of years.. and works great for the forestner bits so just thought I'd buy / make mini drill that would be throat-less.. Steve Good has a review of this tool on youtube

The issue with the drill stand is that you're limited to the throat depth of the drill press.. which is why I was going with the plunge router design.. as you'd just set the base anywhere on your work piece to be drilled.. and plunge it down to drill the holes.. same issue with the jewelers drill hat someone else mentioned... I'd buy another drill press but I'll have the same issues as I do now with my limited 8" throat drill press.. rather than buy a drill press I was looking to buy a dremel or like tool and buy and or make the plunge router attachment.. so I have the ability to drill a hole anywhere I need it on very large projects..

Yeah, I posted that video.. and I do agree about Dremels being over priced which is why I've been researching some other options.. I could build that homemade router to work on most any of the rotary tools.. Steve Good review of that WEN model and talked about how the shaft was a bit wobbly ( runout ) so I don't think it would be ll that actuate for a drill press.. I'll look into the Ozito brand you mentioned..

I did it again.. posted before they are finished LOL.. This is fresh off the saw... didn't even sand it yet.. they'll look much better once I sand and finish them..

Thank you..

Thank you.. The crosses are connected together.. big sister and little brother LOL...

My main use for the Dremel will be to get a plunge router attachment for it and use it as a dedicated mini drill press for drilling the small pilot holes... and this plunge router attachment will only work with certain Dremel tools.. It appears that the WEN tool will mount into the plunge router tool.. so that was why I was asking about it.. I'd like to be able to just leave my drill press set up with the forestner bit for my clocks and get this Dremel or the Seyco scrollers drill for drilling my pilot holes..

Cut two of these for a friend to give her parents and in-laws. Names are her kids names. I just found the cross design and added the names and then connected them together. Cut them from quarter sawn sycamore about 1” thick.

I've been looking at the Dremel tools contemplating whether to get one of these or buy the Seyco scrollers drill... I'd have ordered the Seyco drill today had it been in stock... anyway I decided to check out eBay for Dremel tools and ran across a WEN brand... and it really resembles one of the Dremel models.. upon further investigation.. I found that the attachments for the Dremel fit this WEN tool... upon further research I see Steve Good did a review of the tool.. Unfortunately his review showed the tool has quite a lot of runout on the drill chuck so i'm thinking it's probably not the greatest choice for what I'm looking to use it for.. but seem like a great tool with flex shaft for doing other things with it.. and they seem to be priced pretty low.. some on eBay as low as $20 maybe less yet as I didn't look through them too much.. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wen-Rotary-Tool-Kit-2305-With-Flex-Shaft-Variable-Speed-Rotary-Tool-Kit/263820244985?epid=19021259043&hash=item3d6ce977f9:g:yLcAAOSwuqdaq-p2:rk:53:pf:0 Anyone have any experience with them?

Do you use the Dremel with the router attachment as a mini drill press?

Yes Jet was one of the brands that had slop when I was looking... I question it though because.. the other Jet that set right next to it was good and tight.. not sure if it was just one that slipped through the QC or what.. That is why I want to inspect the drill press I buy before actually buying it..

I would also buy another Delta, I like this little drill press I have and as Ray said, I may try rebuilding it. At this time it’s the only thing I have besides a cordless hand drill. I like the idea behind the Seyco mini drill and can see that being a nice addition to the shop. This little Delta that I have owes me nothing considering I’ve used it a good 10 - 12 years and I bought it used at a antique tractor swap meet for $2 and it was quite used then I believe. It does have its limitations for being only a 8” press but I’d be lost without it for sure. Trying to drill straight holes with a cordless drill is a pain in the behind lol.