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Yes, this coin was solid copper. When the coins heat up, it is a problem because you start getting pattern lift. The table helps carry away the heat so that helps. Best thing to do, if the coin starts getting warm let it cool before the glue starts letting go, and make sure you have a fresh/sharp blade. ------Randy
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WBR, here is my attempt at the Zombuck. I usually don't cut the designs on the coin because I have a hard time seeing it with so little contrast. This is a little rough, but here it is. --------Randy
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Pete, that is absolutely great. You keep that coin set aside, and keep going. You will get the feel for it, and you will be amazed out how your cutting will improve. Getting that first one done, that is the trick. From now on, just work on improving. I'm absolutely excited that you tried this. Did you hold this by hand, or glue it to a thin piece of wood? -------Randy
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Merlin, if you need something bigger to hold the coin, the best cheat is a thin piece of plywood (or whatever) with the coin super glued to the middle. As a bonus, when you are done, you soak the coin with the wood attached in Acetone to release the pattern and the cheat wood from the coin. Neat thing about this approach, like stack cutting, you end up a bonus wood copy. The detail in the wood would be higher than what you would have been able to achieve cutting the wood directly. Pretty neat. Jigs like you may have seen Steve Good create are worthless for high detail cutting because there is no support in the middle of the coin, so the fragile piece would just bend or break. Sometimes the better solution is the simpler one. I started out gluing the coins to wood, but found after a while, I could do just as well without it, so the extra step wasn't worth it to me. I do miss not having the bonus wood copy of these projects. The image below is of the "bonus" wood piece that the coin was glued to. ----------Randy
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I need to make a quick correction to my initial comment on Jewelers blades. Ben sells Pike and Pegas, and I wasn't thinking clearly and had listed Pegas instead of Pike as the brand. Also, I found Pike blades on Amazon for a whole lot less than Bens', and just bought about 720 blades from there to re-stock. At this point, I think class is over and there is enough content to make a good reference and get folks up and cutting. Happy cutting, and if anyone want's to give it a go and has questions, I'll answer those here as they are posted. Good Luck! -------Randy
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wbr, those look great to me. Keep at it and do a few scattered in with your wood. If you show these around, you will be shocked at the interest people give to it After I saw your initial post, I bought more than a few coins from Provident. They should be in any day now. Like you, I might try cutting out a few designs directly from the coin. I am especially impressed by the "Freedom Girl" design, so will definitely try to cut out around that design. I think I also got a Zombuck, but the designs that appealed the most to me were not available. Did you use Jewelers blades? If not, then I'm double impressed. The problem I always have when cutting around coin designs is that the cut-lines are very very hard for me to see. I need to do more of those types of cuts to learn the secrets of that style. ---------Randy
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To adjust the tension without touching the back knob (which you really don't want to do), give the blade a little slack when you clamp it in. If I need a little more tension for bigger blades, I press down a little on the arm while clamping in the blades. The problem with messing with that back knob is that it affects blade travel, negating the tuning you just did. I also use that same approach with the Hegner. --------Randy
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Try this: http://www.gloden.com/woodstuff/2015/_Template_50Cent.psd Now it is your turn to get those coins drilled, patterns mounted,and ready to cut. -------Randy
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These don't have to be done on a well tuned saw. I cut the love birds piece with noticeable blade travel. Having no blade travel helps when you are lining up the cut, but if you start slow until you get that initial "bite", as soon as the blade hits the metal, the metal stops that travel and stabilizes the blade. I need to get out the hex and re-adjust my saw to minimize travel as it just makes starting the cuts easier. I've never adjusted the side to side as I don't notice having any of that. I have my set screws locked in with locktite threadlocker, so they stay just proud of the inside of the clamp. ------Randy
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Author's Note: As I continue down this coin cutting path, I have found a few better ways of doing things, and have greatly updated this tutorial to reflect some better methods. This tutorial can be seen in a little cleaner format at: http://www.coincutting.com/coincutting This tutorial initially began as a post of one of my projects but it got morphed into a pretty detailed and structured tutorial along with some video to make things clear. I have cut many many coins and over the course of the last few years, have worked out a method that has turned a painful process into a very manageable one. So this entry and the posts that follow it should help anyone that wants to give my method a try. Happy Cutting ---------Randy Lesson One - Gathering the Essentials: Jewelers Blades. Pick up some 2/0 or 3/0 Pike from Amazon.com. The smaller the blades, the easier they break. Remember 2/0 is a larger blade than 3/0. Buy a gross, you will go through a lot, especially while learning. One additional note, if you are not used to small blade sizes, #2 is much different than #2/0. Make sure you order #2/0 or #3/0. #2/0 is larger and less likely to break than #3/0, but 3/0 will make a sharper inside corner. If you are doing detail, I would suggest starting with #72 drill bits from Sloans. Flying Dutchmans don't work, period. For beginner patterns, 1/16 from your big box store will probably work fine. The smaller bits are better at getting into very small areas but are more prone to break. 3-in-one oil or equivalent (for drilling) Superglue, preferably the new kind with a brush applicator Adjustable spring-loaded punch for creating an indention for drilling the holes. I like the "General 89" that you can get from Amazon.com or HomeDepot Ask around for Kennedy half dollars. If you want to try on something smaller (cheaper), you can shrink the pattern down to that size. If you want to start with smaller coins, you will need some thin wood to superglue the coins to so that you can hold it for the cut. Acetone (with a small jar to hold it). This is to soak and remove the superglue. Super77 just won't cut it for this. I use a typical magnifier, but along with that, I have the most powerful reading glasses I could find. You can probably get by without all that magnification for the starter patterns. To give you an idea of what you are in for, print the attached pattern out, then see if you can see this clearly on your scroll saw with your existing magnification. If you print this at 100%, that will be Kennedy Half dollar size. If you print it at 79.28%, that will be quarter-sized. The pattern is one of my best selling coins and is the symbol of courage. How appropriate for a starter coin. Print it and tell me what you think. The little red dot's mark the drill holes. Courage_Half_dollar copy.pdf Lesson Two - Getting the holes in the coin. While you are waiting on your order of Jewelers blades to show up, you can go ahead and get your coin ready to cut. So that you know why I'm taking you through a few "easy" hoops, here is the issue you have with drilling the holes in the coin. Unlike wood, if you drill in metal without Oil, you will mess up a lot of coins, trust me. If you don't punch your starter holes first, the drill bit will wonder. We can not put the pattern on before we drill, because the oil and drilling messes up the pattern. (Early on, I used Supper 77, and the oil would cause the pattern to immediately lift). So, Take a good pair of scissors, and under your magnifier, carefully cut out the pattern, staying on the outside of the black line, but close enough that almost no white is showing. Take your time. Use CA (Superglue) to glue your pattern onto the coin. I found that using a thicker glue works best. Press the pattern down tightly so that all parts of the pattern are in good contact with the coin. Use Polyethylene gloves if you don't like to have glue on your fingers. Use a thin CA (superglue), and with the Polyethylene gloves, rub a thin coat over the to of the pattern that is attached to the coin Use the spring punch to mark holes Put a little 3-in-1 oil in each punch mark, and carefully drill those holes. I also use a magnifier at the drill press to line it up. My eyes just aren't that good. Take your time, drill gently as small drill bits break easy. After the holes are drilled, wipe all the oil from the coin. Feel the bottom of the coin, de-burr if there are burrs on the bottom holes. The best way I found to do this is by turning over the coin, pattern facing down, placing it on a soft surface, and using the spring punch in each hole. This should leave you with a pattern secured to your coin. Sounds like a lot of steps, but it is just a few minutes in practice. As a beginner, getting the holes drilled and the pattern on was my greatest obstacle as I was trying to drill the holes without oil which caused me a lot of frustration. Once I got the above process down, this part that I dreaded became trivial and made the whole experience much more fun. Lesson 3 - Making those corners. If the corner is very steep, consider not turning at the end, but hitting it from both sides. If you are just starting the cut, cut directly to the line, back the saw up slightly, and grind the path another bladewidth wide. That should give you enough room to turn and resume directly along the line. Unless you have sharp corners or tight detail, go to a #2/0 or larger blade. Smaller blades break easier, with no benefit for many designs Lesson 4 - Yes You Can This is really less of a lesson, but more of an explanation as to why you might be able to do this kind of work even if you think you hands are too shaky, or your eyes are too bad. There are two very important things to understand: You can magnify the heck of things. When you get older, you lose your ability to focus on things that are close. Magnifiers and reading glasses bring that focus point closer. Depending on the nature of your sight issues, with heavy reading glasses, and a magnifier, you should be able to regain that focus at a much closer distance, and as an equally powerful benefit, things are much much bigger. Unfortunately, the more magnification, the closer you will need to be to your workpiece. I have the magnifier right down close to the top of the upper arm, and my face right close to the magnifier. I'm so close that often times when I break a blade, the top arm hits the magnifier, which in turn bumps my face. When you sit down to cut, take a few minutes to work on the magnifier placement and your distance from the magnifier. Unless you have other sight issues, you should be able to find the sweet spot, and see the pimple on a flea. If you have other issues with your eyes that can't be overcome with magnification, then you might not be able to do the more detailed work. Print out the sample pattern submitted above, look at it with reading glasses and the magnifier, and if you can get a clear image, you should be good to go. You can only cut what you can see. Metal doesn't cut like wood, it is much much slower. But, that said, because of the small scale, you don't need to go as far. So, what this means, is that when you magnify the heck out of things, you see the pattern much bigger, and your cutting rate, because of the very small scale, perceptually is like working with wood on a larger piece. This speaks to cutting at a smaller scale and maintaining control. If metal cut like butter, we wouldn't have a chance. So, cutting small isn't magic, and doesn't require superhuman cutting ability or superman vision. So now you know my secret, I'm not really good, I just cheat. I'm not saying that you will not need to practice in the medium, like every medium, you will need to get a feel for how metal cuts, and like with wood, it will become more natural with practice. There are techniques that you will learn with a little practice, that makes some of this a lot easier. We will cover these coming up. Video Demonstrations Here we go, a video for Applying the pattern. Does this help to see those steps in action? I'm a little nervous in front of the camera, so made a few verbal typos. (Update: I've updated my method for this above, which is easier. The video below shows an older method where I use bits to align the pattern to the coin after drilling the holes. This works well too, but is a little more hassle. I hope to record my latest method to illustrate the simplified method. The description of my current method is explained earlier in this thread.) I include below a brief video on how to polish the coins. I have been cutting on coins that I purchase directly from the US mint, because they are a little crisper. Since those don't need polishing, it has been many months since I did this, and forgot just how hot the coin gets. I turned off the video and used some pliers to hold the coin to finish polishing it. The difference in polishing makes is remarkable. On the downside, glue doesn't hold as well on a polished surface. If the coin project isn't too fragile, you would probably be better off polishing the coin after cutting it, so that you don't get pattern lift. After polishing the Quarter, I went through the process to attach the pattern. I wanted to know how hard it would be to cut a quarter by holding it directly (without gluing it to a bigger piece of wood). It has been a long time since I cut a quarter. I was able to hold the quarter by hand and cut it fine, but I can see where that might give a newbie some issues. Newbies should probably superglue the pattern to the sacrificial wood, at least with the quarter or smaller. Below is the image of the quarter polished in the video compared to an unpolished uncirculated half dollar. In-person, the difference is dramatic. As a bonus in case you want to do your own pattern, here is the Photoshop template for the 50 cent coin, should also be able to open in Gimp and perhaps tools: http://www.gloden.com/woodstuff/2015/_Template_50Cent.psd You can always create patterns at this size, and shrink or expand for other coins as needed. Here is a video of the actual cutting. Sorry, the video isn't polished, but you should be able to get the gist. If you can get anything from the video, this is what I hope you get: Grinding Technique: During the video, the blade was getting quite dull, so the turns were becoming more difficult. This allowed me to show you how to grind a corner. Grinding a corner basically means you saw right up to the corner, or wherever you need a sharp turn, then back up a bit, press to the side and press forward to grind the kerf a little wider for the turn. With sharp Pike blades, you can turn pretty easy without grinding. With cheaper blades, you might have to do this, even when the blade is "fresh." If the blade is getting noisy on the turns, better grind you some space to turn or you will be breaking that blade. Also, even on straightaways, I'll stop backup and grind the line wide into the waste area. This way, when the blade breaks, and it will, I will be able to get my blade back into the Kerf to resume sawing, The first time you have to try to feed your blade right into a narrow kerf, you will understand why you create yourself "regeneration points". Grinding is also how I fix a line that was cut a little wide. You can just use the side of the blade to grind back to the line. This is a very nice technique to tweak your cutting. You may already do this in wood, you will probably do it more in metal. Manipulation of the coin is done with the fingertips. Always try to keep multiple fingers pressing that coin down. One little jump of the workpiece and the blade will catch and break. Notice that the video shows you my blade travel. But as soon as the blade touches the metal, it totally stabilizes the blade. This is why folks that have saws with blade travel can still cut detail. Bonus at the end: You get to witness one of my many blade breaks which scared my cameraman (my 12 yr old son). You can hear him say "My Goodness" as he tried to recompose himself. ---------Randy
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Bob, I'm also an EX owner. My ex has as little vibration as any saw I've ever had. Here is my recipe for reducing vibration. 1. Use the factory stand, or make sure the stand you are on is solid and heavy. The more mass, the less vibration. You can always add mass to the stand. 2. Make sure the saw is solid to the stand. Any slack between saw and stand negates the vibration reducing mass of the stand. 3. Run the saw on a solid surface. Concrete is best, carpet is not acceptable. 4. Before adjusting the blade travel, make sure you adjust the arm height so that it is level with the table from front to back. Then, don't touch that back knob again, adjust tension with front lever. 5. After arm is completely level, loosen (not remove motor screws, turn motor on slowest setting, and slowing run motor, rotating until you find point of minimun blade travel, then re-tighten screws. (you may have to remove screws and replace if you can not rotate enough to find the sweet spot. [sermon . . . . . ] To get the best results from your scroll saw, you need to treat it more like a musical instrument than a tool. You wouldn't pick up a music instrument for the first time, and try to play in front of a crowd. Same with the scroll saw. To create quality, you need to practice and you will see your skill and quality increase over time. With practice, you will develop a "feel" for the saw, and some of those cutting skills become second nature. I'm pretty impressed by those that can just sit down and create great products right off the bat, but those folks are pretty rare. Besides, you spent a small fortune on that saw, seems like a shame to relegate it to occasional projects. -----------Randy
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Depending on what kind of wood you are cutting, the difference is pretty obvious with a burn vs no burn effect. If you are cutting hard plastic, the plastic with tape cuts clean and does not melt back together after the cut. Without the tape, you get melting re-bonding issues. This isn't one of those urban legends type things. I don't typically use it unless I need it, but if I'm cutting something that burns easy, the addition of tape drastically changes the behavior and minimizes/eliminates the burn. I'm not so concerned with how it works, as long as it does work. ---------Randy
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I have good news for you. A jig is not needed or recommended for Kennedy Half dollars. Your fingers are the best jig. For smaller coins, super glue the coin to a thin piece of wood that is large enough to handle, then release by soaking in Acetone when finished. If you have seen jigs like Steve Good demonstrates, those are worthless for detail coin cutting because it leaves the center of the coin unsupported. You can't do detail without support. Besides, if you glue the coin to the wood, when you are finished, you will have a wooden copy of your coin with more detail that what is normally possible with straight wood. For added support, I tape a credit card over the hole in the saw table for zero clearance to keep as much of the coin supported as possible. ----------Randy
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I've also done the hand frame, but, using scroll saw is much funner/faster. Give it a whirl, but not with those coins. Practice on junk coins. Those coins are a great size, but I imagine way too expensive to cut on. I have had several people offer me full silver coins to cut, but I won't do it. I don't cut anything worth more than a few dollars tops. I would be so scared of making a mistake, I would be shaking too much to cut. You have me curious though, so I'm going to look those coins up. ---------Randy Update: Wow, they have some copper coins (not just zombies) that are about a buck each. They are just a little bigger than the Kennedy Half Dollar, so they are a great size. I have bookmarked their site and keep an eye out for something I think would be fun to cut.
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Getting close to Halloween, but this is actually not related to the holiday. This is military emblem for Call of Duty Ghosts game. Anyway, I've cut this coin a few times before, but I really tried to slow down and get the jagged nature of this design down. And just to think, usually I'm trying to smooth things out. I also wanted to create scary small holding points so that it looking like it is floating. There isn't much holding it on. Added a second coin I just cut in for fun. ---------Randy
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I think you will be happy with the EX for fretwork. If money wasn't an issue, for me, I would have to consider the Hawk because of the zero blade travel thing. In theory, it offers the best of both worlds. As for the clamps, if you buy the QuickClamp for the top arm of the Hegner, the blade insertion is very similar to the EX at least for that clamp. They don't recommend doing this for the bottom clamp, but I know of at least one person that had tried this successfully. Of course you still have to deal with bottom feed only which sucks. For the Hawk, I think they feed the blade down through a hole in the clamp, but looks easy enough in the video. I think the old style barrel clamps were not so great but these seem workable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=871&v=Na5E18zXTZI ----Randy
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I'm not sure any of the major saws match the Hype, and that said, I own the EX21 and Hegner. Both have their strengths and both have their weaknesses. But here are a few strengths/weaknesses for each (for comparison, using EX 21, Hegner MultiMax 22, and any Current Hawk. Hawk & Hegner: Almost Zero Blade travel. I'm very good at tuning the EX, but you can not tune out the blade travel to anywhere close to theses saws. Hawk & Hegner: Simple design mechanics. You would think this would make it cheaper . . . If something goes wrong in the EX, you had better be very very handy. Repairs on the Hawk/Hegner are rare and can usually be done by the owner Hawk vs Hegner: Hawk can be both top fed or bottom fed. Hegner is bottom feed only. (Clamps can be removed from Hegner to get the blade through the top, but that isn't practical) Hawk vs Hegner Hawk Warranty is one year, EX two years, Hegner is 7 years on mechanicals, 1 year electric (All kinds of loop holes for warranties, you had better trust your vendor). For the Price, Hawk warranty should be much longer, and Hegner Electric should be longer. Hegner: You can adjust stroke length for thinner materials. This is a pain, but can be done. Hawk and EX. You can adjust aggressiveness of the cut. This is easy on the Hawk, and a little more involved for the EX. The Hawk has two settings, the EX is adjusted by turning the motor (or lowering the arm) so infinite settings, but not down to zero. Hawk and Hegner vs EX: The older EX saws (all saws without tilt table) are no longer supported. Hegner supports saws from 30+ years ago. Hawk supports many older saws, I think not all parts are available. Hawk made in USA, Hegner made in Germany, EX made in Taiwan. Ex has had a few issues with Quality control with broken connector rods, especially with those sold through Axminster Hawk & Hegner has slightly longer blade stroke, 7/8" (vs 3/4 for the EX) using more of the blade. This means you get more out of each blade. Hegner: Requires three different blade clamps for different sizes of blades, and those clamps can go flying when a blade breaks. Hegner: Requires a tool to change blades. If you have weak hands, this can be an advantage. Hawk: Business stability, very very small. Prior owner went out of business, leaving their users stranded until Bushton made that purchase. From what we can tell, they don't sell a lot of saws. Hawk VS Hegner vs EX: Both saws are pretty well built, but Hegner has a plastic connector arm, that can break, especially with age, as mine did. EX has aluminium blade clamps that can strip. Hawk seems to be heftier in some respects, but their newest model has not been out that long. Hawk vs Hegner vs Ex: Hegner stands are welded, and though solid, are not adjustable. Ex and Hawk stands can be adjusted. Hegner vs Hawk vs EX: Table on Hegner is a very small 9 inches wide. Hawk is 13.5. EX is 13.5 EX: The arm Tilts instead of the table. Very very nice for making angled cuts. The mechanism that handles that tilt operation is very solid. Never has the "Different Strokes for Different Folks" been more true. Each of these saws have their devout followers. That said, from a pure enjoyment perspective, I personally enjoy both saws, but prefer the Ex to the Hegner. That has nothing to do with the durability of the tools, it's just a usability thing. If I'm cutting something precise and need zero blade travel, I always use the Hegner. Both of these saws see their fair use. If I get an influx of money, I would love to buy the Hawk as it has many of the strengths of both the EX and the Hegner, but if I do that, I will need to get some "hands on" first.
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He could buy a hand fretsaw for $15, and folks did very good work with those for years, that doesn't mean I would recommend it. My first saw was a Hitachi CW40. Good saw, but changing blades on that type of saw is painful, and I regretted not spending that money on the better saws. Sure that saw could do quality work, with much less effort that with the hand frames, but after the fact, I was not happy with it. I would have been better off if someone would have talked me into spending more money and jumping on up to something I would be happy with. Now, if I were to have started on a DW788, and hated scrolling, then I would have regretted not trying the hobby out on one of those disposable saws. I will say that if I would have started with HF, I probably would have abandoned the hobby before I ever got started. ---------Randy
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I heard back from Advanced, and you can buy the knob without clamp. I'll call Monday to order so I can put the knurled back on the Hegner. I'll also verify that the price quoted is Knob/stud/pad, it would suck if I just got the actual knob for that: Part # HQK-01: $23.98. Best Ex Upgrade Ever :-)
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I'm glad you feel that way, and wish I did. But frankly, I hate my old Planner that snipes the crap out of everything. My Harbor freight rotary tool that has a cheap plastic stand that broke, and is not getting it done. I have cheap Sears electric hand planer that won't keep it's settings, and sheep Skill beltsander that get's hot quick and turns off. The HF biscut cutter works, but I use my Dads Dewalt for a much more predictable result. I gave away the old Craftsman tablesaw that had a fence you had to align for each and every cut, and wasn't getting it done. To me, scroll saws with blades clamps that make changing blades difficult, and that drive some folks from the hobby before they get hooked, do a disservice to their buyers. Many of my tools are not getting it done just as good, unfortunately, I can't just go buy everything I want. I do have a few great tools of which I was blessed with a Hegner given to me, and a EX that I sacrificed dearly for. Last years bonus went to a very used Jet Cabinet Table Saw. Unlike the Craftsman, the Jet is getting it done. I'll sacrifice again for another quality tool some day because there is a functional difference between Harbor Freight and Jet. For tools I use rarely and don't care about, well, there is always Harbor Freight or Ryobi or Craftsman, or Skil or whatever disposable tool I run across. For those that love their Ryobi or Harbor Freight scroll saw, I'm happy for them, but I will never recommend a tool I think is crap. If they don't have the money, I'll recommend they save, or I'll help them find a bargain on Craigslist. But I will also be happy for the guy that saved up $495 to get a DW788, or more for the Excalibur, or even more for the Hegner or Hawk. I'm even thrilled for the guy that has more money than he could possibly spend, and buys the Hegner, Powermatic, and everything labeled Festool, to sit Idle in his shop, because I know it will find it's way to Craigslist eventually, and I would love to have those tools. Some people buy expensive cars, some buy tools, some don't buy anything. I can't remember ever feeling looked down upon by anyone with better stuff. If someone does, so what? I guess I like snobs and non-snobs alike. ----------Randy
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Proxxon is also German made, so if you are familiar with those saws, this is an example of where Germans make some crap also. Hegner Multi-Max v22 has a connection rod made of Plastic that tends to break as the saw ages. Mine broke a few years back. Hawk may be my next saw addition, heck, someone need to buy a new one. ---------Randy
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Thanks Merlin, that is close-ish, but we need one without the swivel tip. The tip needs to rotate, but the surface need to stay perpendicular to the stud. In stud/thread size I believe the stud is an M6-1. The actual costs of these seem to fairly inexpensive, if I can just find the right stud with the same tip. I suspect I will probably just go with the Advanced Knob eventually, but I'm in no hurry, so it is fun enough trying to find the right part. Only thing that I don't like about the Hegner knob it is that the stud on it is longerthan it needs to be for the EX, so it leaves that weight hanging out there further than needed. --------Randy
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Well, heard back from Ray and they haven't sold the knurled knob for about 10 years. They were too expensive to make. So, looks like the Hegner knob might be my only choice if I want to go that route. I have a basic question about clamping screws in general. If I were going to try to find one at a site like http://www.jwwinco.com/products/section8/, what terminology would I look for. "Clamping Screws" get me close, but I don't know the term for the roatating tip. I've seen shoes, pads, and other terms, but most of those are swivel. Anyone here familiar with the terminology of the style of Clamp Screws with rotating tips like are used in the scroll saw? -------Randy
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Different strokes for different folks I guess. To me, the Knurled knobs are much faster, easier on my hands and easier to deal with than the T-Knobs, so much so, that I'm very very excited about the possibility. And besides, when someone asks what saw I am using, I can tell them I have a Hegner/Excalibur Hybrid ------Randy
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So the clamp pictured in my photo is not Seyco, it is the Hegner original. I wish Seyco had displayed the knob in your link as a photograph so I could see if it is identical. On that page, it gives the links to the page to order it (http://www.seyco.com/excparts.html), but there is no knurled knob there. If Seyco sold the Hegner version, that would be indeed be awesome. All I'm seeing on their page is a plastic knob with ridges, definately not the same thing. Unfortunately, I have also used a similar plastic knob, and it isn't anywhere near the same experience. The Hegner Quickclamp knob is my favorite thing about my Hegner, but if it works in the EX, then I get to have the best of both worlds. If Seyco is re-selling the Hegner version, better yet. I suspect they are not, but I'll have to email them to see. The Hegner clamp weighs a little more than plastic, but didn't seem to increase vibration too much. I sent a email to Seyco to see if they still sell a knurled knob. -------Randy
