I spent this afternoon with another scroller. Hi is the person who purchased my 216VS Hawk. It was an interesting visit. Clayton has six scroll saws. 2 - 220VS Ultra Hawks, 1 - 216VS Hawk, 1 - Excalibur, 1 - 14" PS Woods, 1 - 21" PS Woods. I did a little cutting on both the Excalibur and the 21" PS Woods. Both are remarkable saws. The Ex is nearly totally vibration free. A beautiful machine. I also had the privilege to use the PS Wood saw. It is phenomenal. I would call it an industrial rated machine. Heavy, heavy. It is built like a tank and like the Hegner and Hawk it is a simple machine. It has a large table and I was impressed with the belt change system. It is easy and foolproof. Changing belts is a breeze and it cuts like a dream. At $799.00 with free shipping and stand it is a bargain. Had I known about the machine when I first started scrolling I would have purchased it immediately. I am surprised that it is not more widely used. I'm sure there are Village members out there that use one but perhaps just don't lit be known.I almost get the idea they are sort of considered like a Yugo. They are not. I also looked at two of his saws with the mirror tables. Impressive. He waxes them which lessens the shine slightly but the wood introduces small scratches which makes me decide not to do it to my saw. Plus it takes him about four hours to do it. I don't have time or energy. I also used the PS Wood blades. A #5. Very smooth cutting. Finished cut is very smooth, just like a sanded finish. He gave me a dozen blades. I'll put them to use for sure. In all it was an enjoyable afternoon. BTW he even cuts sheet metal with the PS Wood machine. He cuts out an elephant, spot welds the big ears and welds two small rods to it for placing on the garden or lawn. Of course that's me at the PS Wood machine.