Business

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

This remark or footnote came up once again in the thread about pricing. I did not want to hijack the thread and lead it off into another path so thought it would be fun to start a new thread. I have read many times and I even had the same thought when I first started about scrolling for a living when I retired or even at that time quiting my job to start a business. Never happened and never will in my case but it was a thought. 

 

How many of you seriously scroll for a living and have a legit business???  Please do not muddy the thread up with I only do this for the love of it. We all get that part and I do that also. If so tell us what you sell and maybe a photo or two. Tell us a few pointers of what to do and not to do and some mistakes or shortcuts you take to have a successful business in scrolling. We all know the ins and outs so it is not like you are giving up secrets. Maybe you found that perfect selling place and or perfect customers for your product. I am hoping this thread could become a helpful tool for those that have the dream or are thinking about this. It may help them from making some mistakes or may help getting to the promised land quicker and landing on their feet. 

 

I would like to put some of my thoughts here and they are not to discourage or to encourage anyone in any way. But these are things I have come across over the 30 ++ years I have been scrolling. Those that have gone into business have surely run into them but have overcome them in their way and that is what we hope to explore. This will get lengthy so be prepared. First off the old adage Location Location Location plays true when starting a business. You need to have a product that people want and over the many years I find that changes as often as the seasons. You need to believe in your work and be a good sales person and have good sales knowledge both in person sales, and on line sales or brick and mortar sales. Your product needs to be top quality along with the fit and finish of it. The product needs to be practical and usable or at least displayable. Your shipping methods need to be safe and secure and insured. This needs to be in calculations of pricing. Your places for buying materials needs to be reliable and secure to again add to pricing calculations. Your need to keep good records in hourly work and product are a must for proper pricing for yourself and now you are being watched by the IRS. You can not hide from the IRS when having a business. The other factors that sometimes get overlooked is health and safety. Dust can kill. Odors from finishing can kill. overwork can kill. If these thing do not kill they sure can ruin your day!! Maintenance of your equipment to keep product flowing is a must and any down time is costly. Keeping customers happy and filling orders is a big part of having success. Must also remember when doing shows all the time and effort to get yourself and your product to and from the shows and all the expenses of table fees and gas and time to set up and some shows are just crapshoots. they change year to year. Tough to bank of things like that.  

 

These are just a few things that needs to be addressed when dealing with the business aspect of scrolling. I found out early that I love to do what we do and have sold my share of product. I have chased the scrolling circuit and had consignment stores. I have sold word of mouth and given many items away for family and friends and to charity.  But the bottom line I found all I can handle is do this for the fun and not make a living at it. So much more when you are being relied on to put the bread on the table and or pay the bills when doing a business that there are no sure things. I love talking with customers and selling face to face and will always do this till I stop. 

 

I would like to hear from those that do this for a living and or made a business out of what we do. Feel free to add or detract from anything I said. Maybe this post can become a sticky thread that can be always found easily for those who want to venture out on their own and make the millions of dollars that are dancing in their heads. Happy Scrolling!!!

 

 

 

[orangeman]

The request is a tall order!

I do craft shows to make a buck.

Just wish I could do more profitable local shows because the overhead (gas, hotel, food, booth fee) to do an out of town show is usually over $1,000.

My experience with a website is that it generates enough $$ to cover the cost of maintaining the site.

Then there is Schedule C for the IRS. Hours to prepare.

bb

[kmmcrafts]

Business here... wouldn't make it fully on my income yet.. but working toward that.. Offered up a good amount of advice in several different post over the last couple weeks while I been off work.. My Vacay is over so i need to make sawdust once again, LOL

Oh.. see what I sell at the links in my signature..

You are more than welcome to copy and paste any of my post from those other topics into this thread if you make it a sticky..

 

[amazingkevin]

High 98 percent of my work is free,Not worth keeping books for a couple of bucks

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

46 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

Business here... wouldn't make it fully on my income yet.. but working toward that.. Offered up a good amount of advice in several different post over the last couple weeks while I been off work.. My Vacay is over so i need to make sawdust once again, LOL

Oh.. see what I sell at the links in my signature..

You are more than welcome to copy and paste any of my post from those other topics into this thread if you make it a sticky..

 

I may have asked you this before but that nursing clock is that your pattern and if not do you know whose it is and where I can get a copy??? Thanks. 

[Phantom Scroller]

Sorry I do shows for the love of it! I make and sell to make more and buy the wood glue spare blades etc I don't want to start a business because your then making numbers and the fun & love then goes out of it. I do what I want, when I want. Simple as. Roly

[kmmcrafts]

8 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

I may have asked you this before but that nursing clock is that your pattern and if not do you know whose it is and where I can get a copy??? Thanks. 

Steven Mercer Pattern Dated 2008 I believe.. I picked it up from the old MSN free for all scroll saw patterns group..

 

[Rolf]

John T, this will be an interesting thread to follow. I am at that point where I go from pure hobby to business? I am more inclined to keep it as a lucrative Hobby. I do one fair a year and one 3 day consignment, plus my work with Fox Chapel. I make enough money with these endeavors to generate a significant slush fund. 

You make some good points especially about location, quality, reliability and sales person, in my case that is my wife. 

If one does this as a full time business and not just a supplement. You really have to be prepared to scroll all week and then sell on weekends. In my area Long Island there are not enough fairs to support a full time operation and to leave the Island is time and cost prohibitive. Most people that I know that have gone full time and only sell smalls $5-30 need to sell a huge chunk of their inventory just to break even at an event. 

If you want it to support your household expenses then it really depends on where you live. And if your taxes are low chances are the money you can get for your work is also lower.

My taxes are low for this area but not trivial, plus, home insurance, cable, electric, water, cell phone, car insurance, health insurance and the list goes on and on. I could not realistically do this as a full time business and as my sole income. 

 

[Lucky2]

John, I used to sell my work, but I had no intentions of making it a full time business. I scrolled and sold to supplement my income, I sold at a weekly farmer's market. I usually sold about $200.00 worth of stock per week, a slow week would bring in about $75.00. I sold more ornaments then anything else, and I refused to do commissions. It was only a four hour sale, we sold from 10:00a.m. to 2:00pm. I was usually the only person selling wood crafts, and there was always lots of interest in my work. 

Len

[kmmcrafts]

If you sell online.. I am not sure your location is such an issue is it? I can say that the majority of my online sales goes to CA, NV, TX, FL, and NY.. and for international.. UK.. Australia. Just sent out a custom order for the second time this year to Italy.. 

Something else to think about.. marketing to your local business's.. most bigger business's throw a big Christmas party every year.. I have a couple business's that I make ornaments for their employees. that they give out each year.. another one that orders center pieces for the tables at their party.. and each table gets a chance at winning the center piece.. Of coarse.. I make sure they all have my web address on them and or a business card.. nothing like selling to a business that is sort of free advertising to the individuals ( employees) . I sell at a discount ( not much ) couple dollars off of the larger order.. granted I have to design a new ornament and add the year to it each year.. but each of these companies.. order about 150-200 ornaments from me each year.. since I started doing this.. I've had a few more companies getting in on the custom made ornaments.. hated to turn many of them away last year as I couldn't turn out 50+ ornaments in one to two weeks for them on top of all my regular etsy sales.. they said they would come to me this year early to get an order in.. will see if they remember to do that.. LOL   Many crafters sell to individuals.. kind of a pain in the rear to create a custom order and have to design a pattern for one or two ornaments.. but I really don't mind marketing my custom made stuff to companies that are going to order 50+ ornaments.. I think most crafters only think about the crafts shows... to me they are a waste of my time and money.. maybe I never hit the right shows..  tried a few consignment shops a couple years ago.. sold about enough to pay the rent.. another waste of time and money.. 

Anyway, crafts shows aren't the only place to sell nor is individuals.. Like JT mentioned in another post.. you have to be a salesman.. I think you sort of have to think outside the box too..    

I've had people tell me I should do craft home shows around Christmas time.. show ornaments etc to groups of people.. party host gets to earn points for a number of people that shows up and or points for amount of dollar sales their party sold.. and select some items in which the host can win.. or a discount for X amount toward a item they might want to purchase...  much like a Tupperware party sort of deal.. I don't know if that would be profitable.. anyone tried that? I am way too busy to do this sort of thing at fall time my business schedule really kicks in.. Probably in another 3-4 weeks.. you won't be seeing me here in the forums  .. 

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

Kevin, you mention the house home shows. I have a friend whose wife does these and she has asked me several times to do them but i turned her down. I have asked her how others were doing and she said OK. To me OK is not enough to go through all the carting and setting up. Plus the amount of people you are selling to is minimal. You more than likely sell to the other vendors there. 

 

I use to know a husband and wife who got into scrolling for a living. He gave up a corporation job to do it full time. They did well but this was back when crafts as a whole were still a household item. Craft shows were at their peak. They moved to Pennsylvania soon after because it was cheaper to live than NJ. This helped in the income dept. Have not seen or heard from them in many years so I do not know how well that went. very tough to make a living at this for sure. I could not do it nor would I want to and the older I get the more it becomes impossible. I believe like most of us we do it to subsidize our hobby and maybe make a few dollars. I have started a few years ago turning pens and that too is not easy to sell. There are those that do well because of the above mentioned criteria. 

 

Sure do hope a few come forward here and tell us their story of success. 

[Iguanadon]

Good idea and thread JT.  I'll try to be concise... but many of you already know that's not my specialty...

Although I work full time (from home), I've been scrolling "seriously" for the past 14 months, started selling the animal puzzles at the beginning of June last year.  I started at my local farmers market on Saturday's from 8am to 1pm.  I didn't know what to expect when I started but have been extremely pleased. I average selling 27 puzzles each Saturday which equates to $500-$600.  I started looking for and/or hearing about the various craft events in the area, which there are a lot and I now have a master spreadsheet where I log and track what they are, where they are, when they are and when the deadline usually is.  I missed many of them last year as I was hearing about them as they were about to happen, thereby missing the sign-up deadline but I'm hitting a few of them this year.

I had some of my items in a couple of local shops but they didn't do well at all.  The puzzles need to be able to be touched and held to get the full effect of what they are.  When they're in shrinkwrap on a shelf, they lose that "ah-ha" moment.

I'm trying to pick and choose which events to sign up for.  If they occur outside farmers market season (Memorial Day thru Oct 1), I pretty much sign up for them all, try them out, see how sales are and then make a note in my spreadsheet as to whether it's worth doing again in the future.

My first 7 months (2016) I sold almost 500 puzzles.  So far, this year (2017) I've matched my sales from last year and the busy craft event season isn't even here yet and I'll more than double my sales from last year.  In 2018 I'll have a better idea of which events to actually sign up for, as I hear about more and more of them as well.

In an ideal world, I'd love to be able to do this full time, however, I'm fortunate in that I have a solid job/career in which my company pays me way too well to even consider making the leap.  I've crunched the numbers... several times.  I calculate that I could gross $50k a year "comfortably" meaning I'd treat it as a full time "job", still having time for family and social life.  If I wanted to burn myself out, I could probably gross $75k a year, but then I wouldn't enjoy it at all.

I created a Facebook page initially, then I created a website.  The website gets little to no traffic but it's pretty much a must to have as a lot of people ask if I have one and it's good to be able to say that I do.

My current "problem" is that I truly enjoy setting up and selling at events... I enjoy the people, the interaction, the selling, and I really enjoy the $$$ I come home with in my pocket.  But, I need to take a step back and reduce the events I sign up for as Mrs. Ig is starting to grumble about the fact that I'm booking myself for virtually every Saturday thru the end of the year.  

I know of 4 events off the top of my head in which I can sell anywhere from 100-250 puzzles per event, in a single day or weekend and that's what I'll need to focus on next year so that I do fewer events, but still sell the same number (or more) puzzles.  Two are in April, one in July and one in August.  Then there are another 3 or 4 events that I know of in which I can easily sell 50-75 in a single day.  Once I pinpoint the prime events, I can cut back on how many I sign up for, but I'll still continue to do my farmers market since it's just 4 blocks from my house and ends at 1pm each week.

So far being a one trick pony and only doing puzzles is working well for me.  Who knows what it'll be like in 3, 4, or 5 years.

I'm happy to answer questions and share ideas, thoughts and failures I've had.

Iggy

Edited August 6, 2017 by Iguanadon

[Jim Finn]

I make and sell wooden items, many of them are scrolled, at 20-25 sales a year.  Farmers market and street fairs and festivals. I have been doing this for over nine years now. I am retired and have a pension so I just work at this about 35 hours a week.  I do not do any fretwork and have given up trying to sell any wall hung items except a few small crosses.

     I find that here in west Texas the wages are low so I set my prices to match.  I gross about $9 an hour, on average.  I can manufacture toys at $20 and hour but cannot sell them that fast.  I do not sell on line because I think that one has to touch my product in order to be inclined to buy it.  

     I have found a specialty that I like to do and that sells well. (Inlay)  But this past weekend I sold a bunch of drink coasters the shape of Texas and sold over $100 worth of them.  Attached are photos of some of my product and displays.  So far this year my average gross sales has been $496 per show/week.  Higher than last year's average. ($350)  My big shows of the year  are still ahead of me.

    

Edited August 6, 2017 by Jim Finn

[kmmcrafts]

1 hour ago, Iguanadon said:

Good idea and thread JT.  I'll try to be concise... but many of you already know that's not my specialty...

Although I work full time (from home), I've been scrolling "seriously" for the past 14 months, started selling the animal puzzles at the beginning of June last year.  I started at my local farmers market on Saturday's from 8am to 1pm.  I didn't know what to expect when I started but have been extremely pleased. I average selling 27 puzzles each Saturday which equates to $500-$600.  I started looking for and/or hearing about the various craft events in the area, which there are a lot and I now have a master spreadsheet where I log and track what they are, where they are, when they are and when the deadline usually is.  I missed many of them last year as I was hearing about them as they were about to happen, thereby missing the sign-up deadline but I'm hitting a few of them this year.

I had some of my items in a couple of local shops but they didn't do well at all.  The puzzles need to be able to be touched and held to get the full effect of what they are.  When they're in shrinkwrap on a shelf, they lose that "ah-ha" moment.

I'm trying to pick and choose which events to sign up for.  If they occur outside farmers market season (Memorial Day thru Oct 1), I pretty much sign up for them all, try them out, see how sales are and then make a note in my spreadsheet as to whether it's worth doing again in the future.

My first 7 months (2016) I sold almost 500 puzzles.  So far, this year (2017) I've matched my sales from last year and the busy craft event season isn't even here yet and I'll more than double my sales from last year.  In 2018 I'll have a better idea of which events to actually sign up for, as I hear about more and more of them as well.

In an ideal world, I'd love to be able to do this full time, however, I'm fortunate in that I have a solid job/career in which my company pays me way too well to even consider making the leap.  I've crunched the numbers... several times.  I calculate that I could gross $50k a year "comfortably" meaning I'd treat it as a full time "job", still having time for family and social life.  If I wanted to burn myself out, I could probably gross $75k a year, but then I wouldn't enjoy it at all.

I created a Facebook page initially, then I created a website.  The website gets little to no traffic but it's pretty much a must to have as a lot of people ask if I have one and it's good to be able to say that I do.

My current "problem" is that I truly enjoy setting up and selling at events... I enjoy the people, the interaction, the selling, and I really enjoy the $$$ I come home with in my pocket.  But, I need to take a step back and reduce the events I sign up for as Mrs. Ig is starting to grumble about the fact that I'm booking myself for virtually every Saturday thru the end of the year.  

I know of 4 events off the top of my head in which I can sell anywhere from 100-250 puzzles per event, in a single day or weekend and that's what I'll need to focus on next year so that I do fewer events, but still sell the same number (or more) puzzles.  Two are in April, one in July and one in August.  Then there are another 3 or 4 events that I know of in which I can easily sell 50-75 in a single day.  Once I pinpoint the prime events, I can cut back on how many I sign up for, but I'll still continue to do my farmers market since it's just 4 blocks from my house and ends at 1pm each week.

So far being a one trick pony and only doing puzzles is working well for me.  Who knows what it'll be like in 3, 4, or 5 years.

I'm happy to answer questions and share ideas, thoughts and failures I've had.

Iggy

Not sure what you mean by gross? If you mean $50000 before expenses then at the end of the day you might actually get $35000 + or - a few.. remember the more money you bring in.. the more money in expenses too.. 

[Iguanadon]

2 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Not sure what you mean by gross? If you mean $50000 before expenses then at the end of the day you might actually get $35000 + or - a few.. remember the more money you bring in.. the more money in expenses too.. 

Yes, I was using "gross" as before expenses.  My expenses, including wood, blades, etc is right at 10% plus booth fees, credit card fees etc, is another 10% which comes to a total of 20% in overall expenses, so net would be around $40k using $50k gross as an example.

Edited August 6, 2017 by Iguanadon

[kmmcrafts]

You guys do better than I do on a monthly basis.. I imagine I catch up in the last quarter of the year though.. I started off just selling ornaments.. but I needed something to fill in throughout the year so I started doing some clocks and a few portraits.. portraits for me do not sell real well.. maybe because I don't have a lot to choose from.. I don't really do any craft shows.. all the good ones are during a peek time where I am way too busy with online sales.. Last Dec. just on etsy I had 7500 in sales and around 5000 in Nov. about half that for Oct. My monthly sales for this year has more than doubled over last year.. 

Last year I had to shut my site down several times throughout the month of Nov. and Dec.. and I had to turn off my " request custom order " button on etsy just so I could catch up.. this year I have been building up some better inventory of ornaments and also have raised my prices $2 per ornament.. since I raise the prices I been selling a handful a month.. even through the summer.. Going to be a real busy next few month for me this year I think.. as a per hour on the ornaments.. I do really well as I can cut 10-15 an hour.. and easy ones even more than that.. the average ornament price is now $16.. at a per hour standpoint.. that's not too shabby.. but remember.. I have to spend a good amount of time packing up and mailing $12000 +  in ornaments..  

I think part of the reason I do so well in the last quarter is because I started this off with only selling ornaments.. and I have a lot of different ones to choose from.. only started selling clocks etc  the last year and a half.. Now I am looking for other things to add to the mix.. tried bandsaw boxes.. but quickly found them to be cumbersome to store and take up a lot more space..while waiting to be sold.. I still might add more to the mix though.. I really like to make things that are of thin wood and can be mass produced so to speak by stack cutting.. If I sell out of an ornament it don't take too long to run out to the shop and whip up a stack of 5 and cut.. which is why I like ornaments.. Problem with adding in the clocks to the mix.. they also sell really well at Christmas time.. and take much longer to make considering I only cut one at a time... so I try to keep a built up inventory of them..  

Kind of nice in a way to be slow most of the year.. as it allows me to spend time with the kids during their summer break.. we can camp and vacation.. I sort of leisurely cut more stock over the coarse of the summer.. once school starts.. I hit the shop hard with sawing all day most every day to finish building inventory.. also work quite a lot on adding new inventory to keep things interesting for returning customers etc..

After selling the last couple years.. I really think it is possible to do $50000 in sales a year.. or better as Igy said.. I am somewhat half way there now and honestly I don't work supper hard at it.. like I said I just cut here and there through the summer.. but.. I am running my butt off the last couple months of the year.. If I were like some crafters and selling ornaments at $5 I'd have to work 2 times harder to make the same amount

[SCROLLSAW703]

this is a good thread, & so far, alot of agreement in the business end of it. In the 26+ years I've been scrolling & woodworking, I've finally figured out I'm not much interested in doing this as a full time business. Yes, I do take on special orders, other wood working projects, & some lathe work, but, I don't get myself in a corner with timelines. I've learned from past business experience that when a customer comes to me with a project, & the first question they ask is how soon will you have it done? I politely let them know I've got a project or two to finish before I can get started on theirs, but I will let them know when I get it started. 

I'm not as old as I feel, but after some serious health issues the past few years, two major back surgeries, & living in a OTR truck most of my life, I just don't work as fast as I used to. I've found the customer understands, & is willing to work with me. Then there are those that won't.

One major agreement I have is location. You can go to craft show after craft show in your area, & only make, if you're lucky, enough to cover booth rent. After awhile, you've got more goin' out than is coming in. Interaction & word of mouth is good, but folks buying your products & talking about them is better yet. 

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

This thread is progressing nicely. I am glad there are a few here that really have taken it serious and are doing well. Just need to make a few points here that can not be overlooked. The state you are selling in is a key factor for being able to sustain a living from this. If you have other income than it is not a make a living business. It will be treated as an additional business. Health care is a huge factor. Family and people who rely on your income is another factor. As I said the IRS plays a huge role in any business venture so the need for good records is essential. I had my bout with them when I first started a business. I have regressed to a hobby/business because of the minimal income I get from this. At one time I too was in the $50,000 intake but as mentioned expenses eats away from that quickly. 

 

I have started turning small projects mainly pens and this is something I could streamline and make take off if I really wanted to and could be in the high 5  figure range. But what I found as I may sell a fraction of pens it is the making of pen blanks that I could make a killing on because there seems to be a huge market for specialized pen blanks of all kinds. That is something I do. But I will not pursue this because I like my free time now that I am retired. 

Please keep the stories coming and as mentioned those that truely do this for a living please tell us more. 

[MTCowpoke22]

As stated before, I haven't been able to make it pencil out to quit my day job and scroll for a living. Right now I'm operating it as a side business. The money I generate goes back towards buying more supplies and tools as needed. I try to sell an item for what it's worth to me in time and supplies. I'm not going to sell for less than an item is worth just to get it gone. I did a couple of craft shows last year and am going to do a few more this year. Otherwise, I really don't have a farmer's market option. I live in one of the more remote, least populated areas of the U.S., so I don't have a large local customer base, but most people are loyal to local vendors. It also takes time to travel to and from shows. That said, there aren't a lot of people doing this type of work around here either. I also do some antique re-purposing and lathe work to vary what I offer. Last year I did cooler boxes, and they sold like hot cakes. This year I'm finding my Montana Wall Hangings are very popular. I'm trying to find simple ways to make them somewhat different and personalized.  I'd like to take more time and expand what I do on etsy, facebook, and maybe start a webpage, but between my actual job and keeping up with the orders I have, it hasn't happened yet. I have a decent following on Facebook, but so far etsy has been a bust. At least it's a very cheap bust. I do/have donated items to various charities and such that I would support anyways to get my name out there. Like Kevin, I make sure there is a business card along with the item and put my brand on the back. It's definitely a big leap to go from a side business to full time. I applaud Kevin and any others doing that, and hope that someday it may be a reality for me to. But at this time, I'm just going to keep plugging along, trying to build on what I've got going. 

[Oldmansbike]

I have a question for you guys selling. Don't you get tired of making the same thing over and over? When I first started scrolling I made what I call a Christmas sled for my wife. When her sister saw it she had to have one and it just went wild. By the time I was done I had made over 40 of them. I was so sick of making them I have never made another one since.

[Jim Finn]

25 minutes ago, Oldmansbike said:

I have a question for you guys selling. Don't you get tired of making the same thing over and over? When I first started scrolling I made what I call a Christmas sled for my wife. When her sister saw it she had to have one and it just went wild. By the time I was done I had made over 40 of them. I was so sick of making them I have never made another one since.

In answer to your question....No,  I do not tire of making the same thing over and over and over.  I make about 900 toys a year that we give to local children's hospitals.

      I have made small cedar boxes with images or lettering inlaid into the hinged lids over the past nine years.  Well over two thousand of them and counting. About 150 different patterns though.

I get custom work to make also.  I just finished a box to hold a person's ashes. (my first)

      I have worked at construction all my working life so I am very used to doing the same thing over and over.  I do make other items and alternate projects in making them, often within a single day.

[Iguanadon]

46 minutes ago, Oldmansbike said:

I have a question for you guys selling. Don't you get tired of making the same thing over and over? When I first started scrolling I made what I call a Christmas sled for my wife. When her sister saw it she had to have one and it just went wild. By the time I was done I had made over 40 of them. I was so sick of making them I have never made another one since.

So far I don't get tired of it and I've literally made over 1400 of these puzzles in the past 15 months.  They're all puzzles, but I have about 110 different dog breeds and animals I make so that adds some "variety" to my day.

[Oldmansbike]

I worked for 30 years in a factory building Case backhoes and forklifts that's probably why I don't like doing the same thing over and over now. I enjoy making different things on my saw. Sorry for getting this thread off topic.

[MTCowpoke22]

2 hours ago, Oldmansbike said:

I have a question for you guys selling. Don't you get tired of making the same thing over and over? When I first started scrolling I made what I call a Christmas sled for my wife. When her sister saw it she had to have one and it just went wild. By the time I was done I had made over 40 of them. I was so sick of making them I have never made another one since.

Yes, I do. Some aren't as bad as others, but after a bit it gets too repetitive for me. But if it's an item a lot of people want, that's what I'm going to do regardless. I do take time to do something new every once in awhile just to help with my sanity, or lack thereof.

[kmmcrafts]

5 hours ago, Oldmansbike said:

I have a question for you guys selling. Don't you get tired of making the same thing over and over? When I first started scrolling I made what I call a Christmas sled for my wife. When her sister saw it she had to have one and it just went wild. By the time I was done I had made over 40 of them. I was so sick of making them I have never made another one since.

For the most part.. not really.. but I have had some large wholesale and company logo orders of Christmas ornaments that got a little tiring to make last year.. I get enough variety of cuts that it gets mix up pretty well with orders coming in throughout the year.. Actually a good % of my orders end up being custom or personalized.. so many times it's not the same thing every time exactly..