CONONAVIRUS INFO....

[danny]

Read that in Countries where its already Hot that this thing has not been as big as in the Colder countries. 

Anyone know any other information.  Curious....  Danny 

[Fab4]

Hi Danny:
It may be so, but the challenge remains to get to these so called Hot Countries that is the problem
I guess what I'm trying to say is "Sorry, I got nothing on this"
Fab4

[new2woodwrk]

I watch the updates every day, not sure what you mean by "hot" countries.

Italy, which I would not consider a "hot" country, has the highest rate of infections outside of China.

[teachnlearn]

The virus is a variation of a cold virus that have some bad stats on killing people. Flu itself has killed people. The idea is to not panic. Just live as you do, washing hands and not touching your face is a given for medical people. They go as far as gloves, mask and gowns. I did various jobs going thorough college and did hospitals and nursing homes and have gone into quarantined rooms. Had to wash hands, arms, gloves, mask, hat and gown to go into the room. Then pull out of everything without touching the outside and dump it into an eviro bag. That's one on one in a hospital. Every other patent, wash hands and possibly glove depending on what was being done.

its almost impossible to live without going out some days for food, meds, job, cash. If it bothers you get a disinfection gel for your hands. Use the store wipes on carts and hands. At this point they don't even know how long this virus lives on surfaces, but it does effect old, disabled or imun suppressed people.

Keep eating, exercising and enjoying life. Studies show worry and stress can effect you body, so don't stress about it. Flu session has come and gone for years and no one runs around stressing or worrying. The average person can do any more then take the advise of medical folks and scientist that say wash hands, eat well and they are working on the virus everyday.

Years ago I signed up for social computing. The computer donates its time when your not working on it and solves various projects that you can sign up for. When anthrax came up the community was asked to signup to help solve antidotes for it. Every project was stopped and every computer was used and solved it in a week. I'm sure there are services working on the virus now. I stopped, cause my computer was using the hard drive so much it was damaging it. Maybe one day I'll get some cheap computers and signup again. RJF

[kmmcrafts]

What I do know is that the face mask everyone is buying the stores out of doesn't work for it anyway.. so the factories are happy with the medias reporting of this.. 

i heard that folks with weakened immune systems if going out in public places should wear latex gloves.. Assume this will be the next sold out item besides the mask and hand sanitize.. 

 I know a lot of the doctors are mad at the way the media reports on this.. as though to stir panic... Lots of websites talking about it.. WHY? because people will click on anything that has the virus name attached to it.. Computer folks call this click bait.. They put plenty of ads on the pages.. make up a headline about the virus and get paid for showing so many ads on their site.. I almost never click on anything that mentions the virus.. except real local news sites.. because of this.. Not only the media.. but social platforms all of a sudden have hundreds of wanna be doctors and nurses that are only 13 years old posting about this.. why?.. kids these days like to get followers on these social sites.. almost like it's some sort of competition to see who can get the most followers... they'll tell stories they don't even know what they're talking about just to gather more followers.. 

What makes me laugh is now all of a sudden people want to wash their hands, LOL.. shouldn't we practice this on a every day level anyway, LOL.. be people don't and this is how these things can spread.. 

This is copied from a post my friend put up on FB.. If ne follows these precautions it would certainly help stop the spread of this and other viruses etc..

Medical opinion from Dr. James Robb, MD FCAP.
Corona virus:
Dear Family and Friends, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.
The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread by mid to late March and April.
Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:
1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!
What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:
1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.
Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs). The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.
2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.
3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.
4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.
I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.
I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. Good luck to all of us, Dad/Jim.
James Robb, MD FCAP
Share if you like....

  

[teachnlearn]

53 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

What I do know is that the face mask everyone is buying the stores out of doesn't work for it anyway.. so the factories are happy with the medias reporting of this.. 

i heard that folks with weakened immune systems if going out in public places should wear latex gloves.. Assume this will be the next sold out item besides the mask and hand sanitize.. 

 I know a lot of the doctors are mad at the way the media reports on this.. as though to stir panic... Lots of websites talking about it.. WHY? because people will click on anything that has the virus name attached to it.. Computer folks call this click bait.. They put plenty of ads on the pages.. make up a headline about the virus and get paid for showing so many ads on their site.. I almost never click on anything that mentions the virus.. except real local news sites.. because of this.. Not only the media.. but social platforms all of a sudden have hundreds of wanna be doctors and nurses that are only 13 years old posting about this.. why?.. kids these days like to get followers on these social sites.. almost like it's some sort of competition to see who can get the most followers... they'll tell stories they don't even know what they're talking about just to gather more followers.. 

What makes me laugh is now all of a sudden people want to wash their hands, LOL.. shouldn't we practice this on a every day level anyway, LOL.. be people don't and this is how these things can spread.. 

This is copied from a post my friend put up on FB.. If ne follows these precautions it would certainly help stop the spread of this and other viruses etc..

Medical opinion from Dr. James Robb, MD FCAP.
Corona virus:
Dear Family and Friends, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.
The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread by mid to late March and April.
Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:
1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.
2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.
3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.
4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.
5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.
6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.
7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!
What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:
1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.
Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs). The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.
2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.
3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.
4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.
I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.
I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. Good luck to all of us, Dad/Jim.
James Robb, MD FCAP
Share if you like....

  

I got a recommendation to use Zinc lozenge. I don't know if its just me or my wife, good gosh these things are AWFUL! We use the VA hospital all the time for my wife and myself. Years ago my MD use to bump elbows instead of shake hands.

Had to go to the VA Hospital today. They shut off the registration touch computers. One med person said they did this to stop the spread of colds. Really? Walk up the stairs and touch the hand rail, We use wheel chair, push the call button, the push the floor button. They have common use wheel chairs, how many people touched those? or the chairs or the counters, or the kids play area, or the door knobs, or the doors.

Guess I'll shop for UV lights and turn them on to sanitize our place while we are gone.

I worked half a year at a school district as a janitor, only janitor there that had two BS and and MS, but it paid some bills. Between the one dirty string mop, and filthier floor mop I was suppose to clean the classrooms. They had static wipes but didn't want to buy them, so I had one old yellow wipe that was used daily on boards, desks, seats, walls. and a bucket of dirty mop water to clean the halls, not even soap.

In a hour an a half set for me I was to dry mop all the buildings floor, classroom, wet mop all the floors, wipe down chairs, desktops, empty all classroom garbage, clean the washrooms with nothing, clean the gym floor from the last meal, buff all floors, wax all floors. The truth was between the two of us that alternated we worked our emptying garbage one day and dry mop hall, garbage and another thing and on and on. The place was three stories.

The reason I added this, is my wife was a school teacher and we constantly paid for supplies. I have done bus driving and janitorial for the school.  When some of the kids get sick, there is little sanitizing going on and no budget to set one up. Its really going to take money, supplies, and volunteers to scrub these buildings down if its needed. HOPEFULLY NOT.

If you have kids, call and ask what SPECIFIC Sanitizing program the school and what SPECIFIC STEPS they have setup if the school building needs to be sanitized. You will either get silence or a general 'its handled'. I doubt they can give you one hospital germicidal that they are going to use. RJF

If they decide to 'deep clean' schools, do them a favor and bring plenty of supplies, gloves and people, cause the one or two janitors they hire part time won't have the supplies or time needed to truely disinfect the school building.

Edited March 10, 2020 by teachnlearn

[amazingkevin]

Thanks for the hint of good news!!!

[JimErn]

11 hours ago, danny said:

Read that in Countries where its already Hot that this thing has not been as big as in the Colder countries. 

Anyone know any other information.  Curious....  Danny 

Ahh doubtful, S Korea has an outbreak, and this time of year it is cold and there is snow on the ground.

S. Korea has instituted drive up testing for the virus, talk about smart!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/asia/coronavirus-drive-through-south-korea-hnk-intl/index.html

 

 

[danny]

Lot of reading and Thank you to Everyone who added their feelings and thoughts. 

Live and Learn I always feel.                         Danny  :+}

[teachnlearn]

At the entrance of highway ramps they can put a bar over it and spray germicidal wash as all trucks and cars go through.

Buildings can have scrub down entrances at every entrance.

Or if that doesn't work, we can go back to the movies and have the military in every town and everyone stays in their house / apartment around the clock. When someone is sick, they hang a sheet/ cloth in a window or door and the military unit in suits picks them up for treatment.  If it becomes out of control then we fire bomb the town.

'"I just wrote the plot to some movie I saw years ago.  A monkey from over seas is shipped over and escapes. The monkey bites someone and the infection spreads."

Don't remember the name of it. RJF