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[Loskoppie]

I am looking for help again cant find a post or site that will give me tips.  Looked on Steve Good site can't find more information on burning wood.  I am getting some bees wax.

is there anything else I can do.  Does changing blades to a smaller size or bigger help.  I have not cut yet but drilling a hole made a serious burn

Barbara

Thanks again friends known and unknown 

 

Edited October 24, 2021 by Loskoppie

[BadBob]

5 hours ago, Loskoppie said:

I am looking for help again cant find a post or site that will give me tips.  Looked on Steve Good site can't find more information on burning wood.  I am getting some bees wax.

is there anything else I can do.  Does changing blades to a smaller size or bigger help.  I have not cut yet but drilling a hole made a serious burn

Barbara

Thanks again friends known and unknown 

 

Try this link: https://www.google.com/search?q=pyrography

[Dan]

Hey Barbara, what type of wood are you using and how thick is it? If you are burning the wood when drilling it's probably dull drill bits. Small drill bits overheat faster than larger bits. You could try a larger drill bit. You will get a lot of feedback on blade sizes and brands. I suggest trying different blades on scrap from the same board and see what you feel most comfortable with. 

Good luck and share your experience. 

[tomsteve]

to add to what dan said, them small drill bits need speed and slow feed speed. both help allow the chips work up the flutes and get out of the way. when drilling small holes in thicker stock, i back the bit out a few time to help the chips get out of the way and clear the hole

 

[Wichman]

13 hours ago, Loskoppie said:

I am looking for help again cant find a post or site that will give me tips.  Looked on Steve Good site can't find more information on burning wood.  I am getting some bees wax.

is there anything else I can do.  Does changing blades to a smaller size or bigger help.  I have not cut yet but drilling a hole made a serious burn

Barbara

Thanks again friends known and unknown 

 

From Steve's site.

1. dull blades

2. use tape. The tape lubricates the blade.

3. feed rate. If you try to rush the cut, sawdust will pack around the blade causing friction heat and addition blade wear.

 

From me

1. If you can, get cobalt alloy drill bits. They last longer and take heat better than high speed steel.

2. slow the speed of the saw, if possible.

3. If the cut is long push and pull the blade in the cut to help clear saw dust..

4 If your material is thick, try using skip tooth blades.

5. Using beeswax is not really helpful as it wears off the blade quickly.

 

[Roberta Moreton]

I just cut some 3/4 maple without burning it. First I covered the wood with blue tape, then I covered the blue tape with packing tape, then I put the pattern on. 
I was still worried so I put blue tape and packing tape on the bottom too! No burning. 

[Wichman]

1 hour ago, Roberta Moreton said:

I just cut some 3/4 maple without burning it. First I covered the wood with blue tape, then I covered the blue tape with packing tape, then I put the pattern on. 
I was still worried so I put blue tape and packing tape on the bottom too! No burning. 

 

Roberta,

   What were the; saw,blades, and speed?

[FrankEV]

1 hour ago, Roberta Moreton said:

I just cut some 3/4 maple without burning it. First I covered the wood with blue tape, then I covered the blue tape with packing tape, then I put the pattern on. 
I was still worried so I put blue tape and packing tape on the bottom too! No burning. 

Hey, that looks familiar!

When I cut mine, also 3/4" maple,  I just used my regular shelf liner under the pattern. Nothing on the back. Pegas #5 RTG skip.  No burning.

Be careful when easing the edges if you use a rotary tool.  High speed bits or sanding drums will burn the wood easily.   If you want to use a rotary tool, use a very low speed.

BTW, I do not run my saw at very high speeds.  On thin wood or ply I run a very low speeds or the small blades over heat and break toooo often.  For thicker wood, I increase the speed gradually until the blade is cutting easily with just very gentle pushing.  On my Pegas maybe at 1/3+/- full speed. 

Edited October 25, 2021 by FrankEV

[Loskoppie]

Thanks so much I will go back now and see what I must change to help.  I have no idea if we get blue tape hear.  I use masking tape and a tape for packing. 

I will look at it all and try to get as close as I can to your advice.  Dan I will look into the bit it may be the problem and speed as well.  I also not sure of the tape. 

Blue tape I never herd of and may have to put extra or other tape over pattern.  I am going back to find out.

Thanks all Barbara

[FrankEV]

35 minutes ago, Loskoppie said:

Thanks so much I will go back now and see what I must change to help.  I have no idea if we get blue tape hear.  I use masking tape and a tape for packing. 

I will look at it all and try to get as close as I can to your advice.  Dan I will look into the bit it may be the problem and speed as well.  I also not sure of the tape. 

Blue tape I never herd of and may have to put extra or other tape over pattern.  I am going back to find out.

Thanks all Barbara

Blue tape is painters tape, a better version of masking tape.  Should be able to find at any hardware type store.   Another alternative3 is to use self stick shelf liner.  If there is Walmart in your area it is the Duck Brand.  It  is clear vinyle like material and comes in rolls 12" and 18" wide.  IMHO, works better than tape of any kind. Only one layer needed. Then attach the paper pattern with a spray adheasive.

[Wichman]

1 hour ago, Loskoppie said:

Thanks so much I will go back now and see what I must change to help.  I have no idea if we get blue tape hear.  I use masking tape and a tape for packing. 

I will look at it all and try to get as close as I can to your advice.  Dan I will look into the bit it may be the problem and speed as well.  I also not sure of the tape. 

Blue tape I never herd of and may have to put extra or other tape over pattern.  I am going back to find out.

Thanks all Barbara

Builders Warehouse Faerie Glen has it.

https://www.builders.co.za/Fasteners-Fixtures-%26-Security/Tapes-Seal-Strips-%26-Bubble-Wrap/Duct-Tape/Glooit-80022-5-Painters-Tape---Blue-(109-x-2-2-x-48mm)/p/000000000000713802

If this is the same Pretoria.

[tomsteve]

2 hours ago, Loskoppie said:

 

Blue tape I never herd of and may have to put extra or other tape over pattern.  I am going back to find out.

Thanks all Barbara

look for painters tape/masking tape. painters tape is a little less stickey so easier to remove

[Roberta Moreton]

3 hours ago, FrankEV said:

Blue tape is painters tape, a better version of masking tape.  Should be able to find at any hardware type store.   Another alternative3 is to use self stick shelf liner.  If there is Walmart in your area it is the Duck Brand.  It  is clear vinyle like material and comes in rolls 12" and 18" wide.  IMHO, works better than tape of any kind. Only one layer needed. Then attach the paper pattern with a spray adheasive.

The last time I bought the shelf liner, I bought the Contact brand, that stuff is super sticky and nasty! I had a devil of a time getting the sticky residue off! I put the entire roll in the trash!

[Roberta Moreton]

15 hours ago, Wichman said:

Roberta,

   What were the; saw,blades, and speed?

Flying Dutchman blades #5 Polar

[FrankEV]

3 minutes ago, Roberta Moreton said:

The last time I bought the shelf liner, I bought the Contact brand, that stuff is super sticky and nasty! I had a devil of a time getting the sticky residue off! I put the entire roll in the trash!

You might reconsider trying the Walmart Duck Brand.  It is a lot cheaper than using Blue Tape and Packing tape, easier to apply, is repositionable and comes off clean as long as you pre-sand to a nice smooth surface.

[Roberta Moreton]

10 minutes ago, FrankEV said:

You might reconsider trying the Walmart Duck Brand.  It is a lot cheaper than using Blue Tape and Packing tape, easier to apply, is repositionable and comes off clean as long as you pre-sand to a nice smooth surface.

I will,  I will start looking in stores.  

[Loskoppie]

Thanks All 

In South Africa at the moment it is  hard to get stuff will look on internet and in stores to see what I can find.

Barbara

[Loskoppie]

Wichman Hi from Barbara loskoppie

So glad you have shown me what to get in S.A. will try it soon.   I just could not know what it was and if we had it no one under stood

what I was talking about when asked for it.

Thanks All From Barbara

[Wichman]

43 minutes ago, Loskoppie said:

Wichman Hi from Barbara loskoppie

So glad you have shown me what to get in S.A. will try it soon.   I just could not know what it was and if we had it no one under stood

what I was talking about when asked for it.

Thanks All From Barbara

You need to edit your profile to reflect that you are located in South Africa.

 

[Loskoppie]

Thanks All and wichman From Barbara 

I will try to change it.  Sorry that was silly of me.  That shop has a store near me. The other problem no one new what it was as I only new it as Blue tape. Now I no what to ask for.

Edited October 26, 2021 by Loskoppie

[OCtoolguy]

5 hours ago, Loskoppie said:

Thanks All and wichman From Barbara 

I will try to change it.  Sorry that was silly of me.  That shop has a store near me. The other problem no one new what it was as I only new it as Blue tape. Now I no what to ask for.

To be exact, 3M blue painters tape. Comes in different widths. I keep 1" and 3" in my shop but try to use it sparingly. It gets expensive even here in the U.S. I can't imagine what it must cost in S.A.

 

[Loskoppie]

Thanks OCtoolguy yes we have to think twice with every thing.  But it is great to you guys to help learn new things

Barbara Loskoppie

[WolfmoonCT]

Also, if you use the blue painters tape, there is no need to put packing tape on top of the painters tape. I have never done that and I get no burning.  I cut 99% of my stuff with Olson #2/0R blades.

[Roberta Moreton]

To be clear, I had enough maple to do this one time.  Yes, I over did the tape, I did not get a second chance. This was my way to be sure.