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Everything posted by hotshot
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Ray, as you are Hegner hunting, if you find a Hegner that that only has the mid size clamp, I wouldn't worry about not having the largest or smallest clamps. If you want to use Jewelers blades, the smallest would be what you use, but in my experience, the Hegner is brutal to Jewelers blades, so I didn't get my money out of the small clamp. The standard clamp get's all the use. I think you will find that the standard holder will handle all your blades, unless you go to the extremes either direction.
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From that year, and that model, I think the real question is price. Getting any part whatsoever is trivial, even for Hegners much much older. I would easily pay $600 if it had the quick tensioner up top. I've seen them come up for sale in that 600 range or less from time to time. If it is in new condition, I might even pay more. Ask if the saw has been dropped. You could turn on the saw and in a few seconds know if it is ok. Should be quiet-ish, and smooth-ish. Arms should run true. As RockyTime mentioned, unless it has been abused, it is probably ok. I know that 600 pricepoint shocks some of you that bought this saw new, just stating what I've seen come up for sale. I bought the Hawk BM26 in new condition for 600 also, and sold it for that same price.
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Wow, a classic thread from way way way back, resurrected from obscurity. There was a lot of good vendor feedback from Hans in this one.
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Yep, but your odds of hitting a US made tool is getting more and more unlikely every year. Did I mention the bearings in my BM Hawk were made in china? I believe the motor was still U.S. made though, but if you dig into the control circuits and probably the motor itself, I suspect you will find foreign parts. It's pretty sad really.
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Yep, me too. Some harbor freight stuff does actually work well.
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Cool, can you give us the link?
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You did good by leveling your arm first. What I do, is remove the three bolts, and turn the speed control all the way down, then put something behind the blade to gauge travel. Then I just run the saw while I rotate the motor back and forth until I find the sweet spot. Going too far either direction will result in excessive blade travel.
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$300 is pretty cheap, but I echo the sentiment on the parts. The Delta part I ordered took 6 months or more to come in. I don't understand what is up with that. Still probably a better deal than other low end saws in the 200 price range, it's one of those calculated risks.
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I love these kinds of posts . . . . I've recently done the electrolysis approach. Since I already had a few pieces of rebar, some wire, a 5 gal bucket, and a powersource, so had this up and running in like 10 minutes. Very easy, very effective. I was using a small transformer, but am looking to kick it up a notch with a more powerful car battery charger. For small stuff, I like the evaporust idea, but I was doing large pieces that wouldn't be practical with that approach. And honestly, I was "looking for an excuse" to try it and I thought the process was very intriguing. For small parts, a tumber would be great for cleanup after the evaporust. I have a magnetic polisher that I use for small stuff also, and it does well also.
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Tell Pegas we need Bob Back! He really is worth his weight in gold. -------Randy
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Now we wont' be able to tell the age of these saws by the wear on their tables . . . . but progress is progress LOL
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I third that. I needed to use those very very small bits, and this chuck is pretty painless. I've been using since Nov 2018 without any issues. I'm thinking Dremel should toss one of these in with the higher end dremels they sell, though they are pretty cheap.
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The thing about Denny, if you ever go to his shop, a few things are evident, foremost of which is he is one of us. His scrollwork is all over the place. So not only is he a scroller, if you go to ArtCrafter store and meet him, he is the nicest guy ever, and he will give you a tour of the store, which is very very well done. These are the kinds of people you want to keep in business.
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Looks fun, but too much $$$ for an impulse purchase. I wouldn't make enough boxes in my life to justify/pay for it. I do like puzzle boxes, and the scroll saw limits me to a couple of inches, and that is pushing it. But the boxes I like have that one large inside cut, and I don't like the idea of sawing in, then gluing the sides back together. However, this would allow me to make much wider/longer boxes, and I could keep the height low enough to use a scroll saw on that inside cut. Currently, I can do 2" x 2" x 10" (or more) All that said, if the price was more in the "impulse" range, i would consider it, and justify it the way I justify all my other purchases like this (dis-engage rational decision making, close eyes, and pull the trigger). I already have more tools than I need, so when I consider something like this, price isn't the only concern. It is just as much, "Does the amount of use for this tool justify the space this would consume in my shop."
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About that table top, whenever I see that, I know the user has some hours under his belt, and their reputation in my mind skyrockets. Using that when judging how much a used EX has been used, is very handy. Unless they had it covered, a pristine EX table would be a good indicator of low hours. Secondly, I would look at it's country of origin, I wouldn't pay anything for the chinese version, life is too short. It doesn't hurt to put it on the market for $500, you can always come down if it doesn't sell. It's really asking $400 for the saw, and $100 for the upgrades, which sounds better when worded that way.
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Wow, that was like a straw in haystack, I'm very impressed you were able to find that.
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This is the one I found most "cuttable" and a good looking font also: https://www.dafont.com/birds-of-paradise.font
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Hmmm, had to go look as I've not had to re-order for some time. The blade is 3/4" and looks to be 3 tpi Lenox trimetal. My last order was from Industrial Blade (1-800-729-2523) ------Randy
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One of these days I'm going to have to convice you to run a Carbide. Seem like all blades cut like butter, and are a joy right out of the box. All blades I've tried, including Infinity seems to get out of the butter phase pretty quickly when re-sawing. The Carbides cost a lot more, but give you a much longer windows of butter cutting. For impatient me, it seems like when I have to exert any significant amount of force, the blades start doing their own thing, and the consistency and smoothness suffers. And some pieces of wood have demons in them and try to drag the blade all over, which is very frustrating, but much less so with a larger Kerf blade. Here is a cross link to the old SSWC thread on this: https://forum.scrollsawer.com/forum/scroll-saw/tools-and-blades/834886-lenox-trimaster-high-end-carbide-bandsaw-blade For those of you that didn't see it back when that thread was active, check it out to see my awesome (or maybe adequate) phone photography skills . . . . . You can also see some comparison cuts.
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Original Excalibur in Europe; under what name?
hotshot replied to Lisette's topic in General Scroll Sawing
The Axminster EX type saws are made in the same factory as King, Jet, Seyco, Pegas, and Carbatec. Seyco and Jet are further from the original designs than the others. Pegas has slightly deviated. King and Axminster, and Carbatec are probably the closest of any of the saws to the original designs. I will note that Axminster and Carbatec have other saws besides the Excalibur types. -
I don't think there would be any issue with any part. I'm betting there isnt' a part in the whole Pegas saw that wouldn't work in your chinese EX21. If they just changed tolerances, I would think that would have the same effect as what they are hoping to gain for the Pegas saw. Might tighten up your saw.
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Yep, on the other forum, Bob said they tightened up the tollerances on some of those parts, so I would definatley try to go with Pegas parts, unless the manufacturer just tightened up the tollerances across the whole line per Pegas feedback to them. It is really exciting to see Pegas continues to innovate.
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From my time working with them, I dont' think all parts require a wait. From what I understand, they do larger "runs" on specific parts. It doesn't make a lot of sense to do all the setup for something, and only do a few parts. And some things they have a excess of, from the RBI days. For example, if your saw came with short legs, they still have an abundance of the longer legs in storage, painted and finished by RBI. You can get those pretty quickly. Clamp knobs and the most common components, I think they do larger runs with, when their machines are working. I think there are things to be concerned with, but just saying, there is a good chance they have the clamp knobs and that type of thing.
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As machinists, I don't think they understood castings used in the G4s and I'm sure the G4 was cost prohibitive, especially at their volumes. They understood milling, so they tried to take the ultra platform forward, and relabeled BM. This was unfortunate I think. I've not heard a lot new coming from them lately. I suspect the scroll saw side of their business is "coasting"
