Well I just bought a hawk 226vs, for 225$. After about many months of following these forums i thought i was going to buy a cheapo HF, Wen , something like that, but i paid a little more for some old iron. I hope it doesn't turn into a boat anchor. I have it in the garage right now , i just brought it home and cleaned it up some. It looks almost new, no dings ,scratches. It looks like it was not used much. The blade on it was bent, very very thin blade many teeth. So i have to get some more blades. I have been working wood now for 55 years, i think i worked myself up to a beginner. The saw will live in my basement where it is warm in winter and cool in summer. But i have to wait till my step son comes over to help me carry it down. Hope he brings is son who is part gorilla, what a guy. Pics will follow, my phone is charging. I will be calling on you guys for help. Thanks, Carl