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  • Birthday 04/10/1987

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  • First Name:
    CLAYTON
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    I WORK IN AEROSPACE, AVIATION AND DOD
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    Colorado
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    PS WOOD 21 INCH
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    Victorian, Clocks, cathedrals, compounds and home decor as well as useful engineered things from engineered lumber ofcourse!
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    Architecture clocks. Schwiboggen. Useful tenon designed products. Complex geometric designs. Candle driven pyramids. Signs. Projects that are mechanically driven. Cuckoo clocks.
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  1. Same as the jet 22 JSS but more colorful and on sale for half the price. If you like the double parallel drives you might like this saw. Cast iron table. Its blue and yellow. Check www.Baileigh.com.
  2. Hi all. I am open to trading some Hawks for some hegners and a 30” King with pegas chucks. Saws must be factory condition no modifications no aftermarket or self made parts. My Hawks are in excellent near new condition and need nothing. The air hoses have been upgraded to the new locline styles so the Hawks don’t blow the sawdust in your face as they came from the factory that way back in the day just like the older Hegners. Looking for a Hegner 22V, 18SE, Multicut 3 (24” throat) and a Polycut 3.
  3. Use what works for you and brings you joy. As long as the saws are working as they should its all the same. Hegners don’t have arm bearings. They have bushings that get lubricated thats part of why they run so smooth and are so reliable and that design can handle thrust loading from the side well. Also a reason they are less maintenance and lower operating cost. What I like about the EX series though is that the motor is adjustable so you can get that blade perfectly vertical! Excellent for those blades. But again you have a Hegner so you have that blade stroke already and a removable plastic insert that you can chew up instead of your nice table!
  4. More like a testimonial to what works best in the long run. A saw thats reliable backed by a reliable vendor of parts. And quality consistent parts at that. I love all the saws. The Hawk hum is soothing. Used to be my absolute favorite until it went down the drain. The adjustment of the double parralel system with its easy blade chuck system awesome stuff. If RBI was still RBI then yes hawks are great. But with the current manufacturer nope. Ive seen the hawk change from belt drive to ultras with ac motors then dc motors then G4s and now the BM. I have even seen four different shades of red. The best saw is the one thats reliable and has quality support. On hawks you should only have to change the rear pivot wedge and thats after hours of lubricated use tensioning properly and the front cam and the arm bearings. Simple always wins. I have a lot of Hawks even one that was mine originally. It still looks and runs new. But again maintenance and proper use. Enjoy those RBI’s! Have fun.
  5. I have been around scrolling since birth. I restore a lot of saws and I recalibrate them and resell them to someone for less cost than a new one. Every saw has its own modification it seems. Not always but typically what I see are a couple things. On hawks people replace the tension knob in the back with something else and this leads to other problems. Every saw has flywheels or counter balance weights according to the weight of factory components. Changing this changes other things leading to motor and bearing issues bent arms etc. on Hegners I run into a different issue. People cut the stop off the back because they think they “are making it better”. The workpiece seems hard to bottom feed. On a hegner there are two ways to feed the blade. 1. Leave it in the bottom holder and rock the clamp forward to meet the wood upon entry. That is what the slit in the table is for. 2. Remove the holder, flip the wood over and thread it in and flip the wood right side up and using the slot in the table place the holder in the bottom holder and then retension. Heres what happens when you cut the stop off the back to “make it better” on your $1500+ dollar machine. You 1. Bend the rear tension assembly $70. Then the force moves through the arm and 2. Bends the arm in a twisting motion. About $200+ for an arm. Lets not forget you destroyed a c frame $190. Now your saw doesn’t track correctly and your motor is taking a beating at the bearings and you start hearing a squeal or squeak and your pitman arm or connector for Hegner terminology starts taking a beating and develops a crack at the end of it. To replace that its about $70 and now your control board doesn’t know what to do with the load constantly changing from vibration and your controller keeps trying to compensate and blades start breaking and your controller goes out. Those are about $400 and a motor is about $700. Cutting this off you destroyed your investment and ruined an heirloom tool. No point in handing it down now. Another thing I see is bellows. Stop trying to glue these on. Bite the bullet and get a new bellows. The noise stops, the air blows again and your in business. Hot dry climates expect a 5 year life span. $10 a year. Gluing them on you also ruin the bellows base which is another $7. Lets not forget about shipping if its one part at a time while you troubleshoot…. I have rebuilt them all and only two saws reign supreme for reliability and durability. the others have issues of thier own and are a mess whether its customer service and parts or speed controllers, arms and bearings. 1. The Hegner its built better and cost of maintenance is lower, even though parts are higher its lower cost of operation and a better investment overall. With daily and proper use you should only be buying bellows and the nylon pieces for your forward tension clamp. 2. The scrollmate or PS wood machine. Even with bent or twisted components its a champ and runs. Ive only had to replace a couple bearings after 4000+ hours of heavy abuse. An old man in my life bought a new Hegner in 1998. Never modified nothing and in 2019 he replaced his rear tension assembly. Everyday since he bought that hegner he sat behind it almost all day. Hes replaced a bellows once and the nylon tension assy a couple times. Today he is still alive and scrolling strong on that Hegner he bought all those years ago. His cost of operation is minimal because he left alone amd learned proper operation and tensioning. So before you buy or modify keep in mind the cost your choices will make you in the future. To avoid headache. Avoid the double parallel mechanisms and the Hawk saws. The engineering just isn’t there. Realignment is a pain and time consuming. Moving the stop down also causes the same problem. Save yourself a headache and leave well alone on your saws.
  6. Wow! That’s quite the turn around. I remember when I ordered a new 26. And they said it would take 10 months because of the waiting list. That was in spring 2018. And then they called me at the end of 2021 and said my saw was ready. I giggled and said I already bought nine more saws I don’t want anymore. But thanks. They got a little upset and I had to explain that its been three years since I placed my order. Hahaha goobers.
  7. They have been redesigning the blade chucks to be more quick. Currently you pull the lower holder out and thread the blade. Then put your work back on the table and the chuck drops to the bottom and clicks in. Tighten the upper chuck apply tension and get heavy. Because the saw cuts so fast it seems like more of a pain. My saw has approximately 3000 hours on it. Im dreading selling everything i was gonna get more and set up a studio and give workshops. Let the saws make money for me but no room and I don’t want random people coming in my home. Selling my saws for hi prices because they are mostly near new condition. Problem free and require nothing. Better than waiting on a hawk and also paying shipping or getting a saw that needs a lot of parts and work. That ps wood is fun. I have another one. An orange scroll mate that is currently getting overhauled its getting everything. Im excited to see it finished. Idk what color yet. I might do a neon green. Ill post it for everyone to see when it is done. Side note. If you do buy one of these saws. They prefer the olson ogt blades. They are robust enough to handle the saw at high speeds. A 1” stroke does a lot if damage quickly so must be on your A game. The super sharps that ps wood carries cut so fast and quiet on a lower speed it does make a fun experience. If you do heavy free work though. This saw is not for you. Production cutting puzzles and larger pieces stacked with minimal pierce cuts yes! I will say owning all of the brands. Hawk wins for its durability, reliability cost of parts and user friendly system. Plus I like the Hawk hum. Just a pain getting what you need on time and correct.
  8. I miss him too. I have both his Hegners. Its just time to let go. I had his old 16” hawk for a while too. I rebuilt it and my cousin bought it. Ran amazing.
  9. This is a rare Hegner. 14” variable speed. This saw was Lester Grenz saw. It has a new spring and quick tension assembly installed in the back. This needs a new hose which I will be ordering for it. Runs great. Its a Hegner! $750
  10. This saw is my favorite. It has no loss of power ever and a full 1” blade stroke making it an extremely fast cutter. Comparable to the Hegner poly cut 3. Excellent condition and has extra blade chucks. Parts are still available and extremely affordable. Excellent puzzle cutter for production. $800.
  11. Hawk 226. Foot pedal and three blade chucks. Excellent condition. No modifications. All original factory. My favorite Hawk. $1400
  12. 30” King scroll saw. Pegas heads. Coating came off the table. $650.
  13. Haek 220vs with chair legs. This is has the dura torque motor and the slowest and fastest speed of any of my Hawk saws. 2 blade chucks. Excellent condition. $1500
  14. This belonged to our dear friend Lester Grenz. I have since replaced parts on it from Hegner. Runs great. No foot pedal. Saw only upper and lower holders. Try before you buy. $900
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