Scrappile Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 This is a project I started in March. It is called the "Five Dragon Box", pattern from "finescrollsaw.com". It is no where near finished, not glued up I just have is assembled for the picture. This is the project that made me go from an advocate for spiral blades only, to an advocate of it is wise to get proficient with both flat and spiral blades. I cut this out with spirals, now I am in the process of filing/sanding all the cuts to remove the spiral saw marks. It is going to take me a long time! I have about 1/3 of the top piece done. I only work on it for short period because I hate sanding and I keep finding excuses to sit at the scroll saw. Been temped to try out some scroll saw files like these: http://www.woodenteddybearonline.com/x/product.php?productid=90&cat=&page=1 Anyone know it they work?? Travis, Lucky2, Fish and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobscroll Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Can't wait to see it finished Paul! It's looking good, Thanks for showing, Bob Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 What an awesome project Paul!....That is coming along great!....Like you, for a while 90% of the blades i was using were spirals....now i am having to learn how to use the flat blades again....I guess they both have their place!....Thanks for showing the Dragon box! Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 This is one fabulous looking box! Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I can't wait to see it finished too. That's some great work. Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I like this pattern,, it might be my turn to copy. It is when I see something posted and I really like it, that I am driven to buy the pattern, usually not so much from the pattern magazines as they are usually so small they do not enthuse me much. Always a great piece when you cut it. I love your wood choices too Dick heppnerguy Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Yup, that is a great box even without the finish. It's a beauty. Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Stunning looking box Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Nice box my-be me copying as well, but too many irons in the fire at the moment. ***Merlin*** Edited May 17, 2015 by merlin Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I take you folks don't work one project through from start to finish? I have been trying to finish one thing before starting another. I guess I will have to rethink that strategy. Ray Scrappile and LarryEA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I like this pattern,, it might be my turn to copy. It is when I see something posted and I really like it, that I am driven to buy the pattern, usually not so much from the pattern magazines as they are usually so small they do not enthuse me much. Always a great piece when you cut it. I love your wood choices too Dick heppnerguy Nice box my-be me copying as well, but too many irons in the fire at the moment. ***Merlin*** Dick and Merlin, do not hesitate to order from this guy. He is a great person to deal with, very good service. I have ordered from him twice not. The first time I ordered was the pattern for this box. I requested the pattern be sent via email so I would save postage. I received it the next day, however, with my printers I could not get as clear of a printed pattern as I wanted. So I wrote and asked it I needed to buy the pattern again to get him to send it USPS. No he said just pay the postage. It was well worth it. I have since ordered 3 more box patterns from him this time hard copy. It is not expensive to take them to Staples, or Office Depot to have copies made. I take you folks don't work one project through from start to finish? I have been trying to finish one thing before starting another. I guess I will have to rethink that strategy. Ray Ray, I have two or three things going all the time. That way is I run into difficulty on one I can do something else while I think about it. I have to change pretty often. Thanks for the comments every one. I hit my quota of "Likes" today so I couldn't let everyone know I liked their comment. Why is there a quota? Guess no one has tried the saw files I mentioned in my original post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Finn Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 This is exactly why I do not use spiral blades. "...now I am in the process of filing/sanding all the cuts to remove the spiral saw marks. It is going to take me a long time! I have about 1/3 of the top piece done..". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 This is exactly why I do not use spiral blades. "...now I am in the process of filing/sanding all the cuts to remove the spiral saw marks. It is going to take me a long time! I have about 1/3 of the top piece done..". Lesson learned, but they have their place in my book. I just have to learn the whens and wheres of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhudson Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Let me assure you, you are not alone in thinking that sanding is.... well I will probably violate the Terms and Conditions of using this site if I'm explicit. Be that as it may be, I use these types of files/tools for sanding interior of scrolled projects Note the sand paper unit, just a small scrap of thin wood that uses double sided tape to hold on a slice of sandpaper. I have couple of these. I also wrap sandpaper around round files and use that. Love the project by the way. Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Wow quite a project and you are doing beautifully. Likes....Travis explained it way back about 90something posts ago. And at that time he upped the quota. May be a post somewhere about scroll files, I know nothing about them. And last thing, Hans, does this sort of cutting all the time, bet he will like it. Also I bet he would comment on the sanding.... Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Sounds like some bodies looking for a professional CAT SKINNER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsN Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Nice Box!!! I have used the file blades. They work well for cleaning up messy spiral cuts. I usually try to "cut better" rather then have to go back and sand so much. (different blades/speed/whatever) Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Finer spirals ,good tension ,smaller stacks ,spirals bow easy and require much better control to achieves smoother cuts ,I personally think they are easier at least for me to control than constant spinning of work piece with a flat blade .Every thing has it's use's and ONE'S control of that gives them greater latatude to get the most out of any tool ! Practice fills you SKILL BAG!JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Paul, I do fret work mostly, and I hardly ever have to do any amount of sanding. What I do is, I use the ultra scroll reverse blades to do the cuttings, I got them from Mike. After cutting out the subject, and depending on the frailness. I'll either remove the paper pattern before sanding, but, if the object is frail or, delicate, I'll leave the pattern on the wood while I sand it on the opposing side. I do this for the strength of the paper and the glue. Of course, this means that when your cutting out the pattern, it is good side down. Next I'll either sand or remove the pattern, depending on the frailness of it, you be the judge. I'll then do the sanding, and all I use to do most of my sanding is a detail sander. One of those types that use sanding pads that looks similar to a stretched triangle. Sometimes, I will lay an old towel under the object before sanding it. Like before you be the judge of how delicate the object is, and if you need a soft layer to protect what it is you cut out. I swear, I've never lost a cutting to sanding anything this way, and, I have often wondered why other people didn't sand their work this way. Presently, I'm using a no brand name detail sander, and I use 220 grit pads. Sanding this way is a lot like other things we attempt to do, it does take a bit of practicing. You will have to learn how much pressure to use, so you don't break something. And, it's good to learn what type of cutting should have the towel placed under it before sanding, not all pieces need the towel, but some do. I learned to do my finish sanding this way over the years, simply because I hated sanding my work by hand. Try this, it might solve your sanding troubles. I don't know how this will work if you use spiral blades, I only cut with flat blades. Ooops, I forgot to mention, I even use this method when sanding thin delicate fretwork ornaments, they are the ones that need the towel under them when sanding. Sorry for being so long winded, but, I had to be to get all of the info included. Len P.S. I have no experience with the sanders your talking about, I have looked at them, but didn't buy any. Edited May 19, 2015 by Lucky2 Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatie Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Very interesting box. If it was me I would sand, sand and sand until it was finished just to get it out of the way. Sorry can't help with the files I've never used them. Marg Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewix Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Great looking box Paul. Just got a pattern from Pedro myself and was very pleased with it and the fast service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewix Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Nice box Paul. I just received a pattern from Pedro and am pleased with it and the quick service will order from him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Which pattern did you get? Can't wait to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewix Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Paul the jewel cabinet pattern #081 is the one I chose for my 1st try at a box. Think I'll do it in walnut with either maple or cherry for the accent pieces. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 That is going to be beautiful. More work than my box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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