preprius Posted January 9, 2021 Report Posted January 9, 2021 So artists create the original piece. That inspires craftsmanship that reapplies it in a different form or media. What is innovation in scroll saw industry? Where does creativity fall into the scroll saw industry? In my career innovation rewarded is with patents. New method or creative idea for that industry. Art it is protected with copywrite. Craftsmanship is rewarded with sales, self pride, and public duscussion, durability? If have a new idea, i make sketch, then make the item. But if it looks bad becuase of my backgound or presentation, Is it bad piece? If I pay a craftsman to make the presentation better and he/she uses a new (never been done before) method to make part of the piece look better. Isn't he/she creative and innovative. So the piece has 2 artists. Song example... I wrote a song, I paid a girl to sing and a guy to record it. His method of recording is better than mine. He owns a patent on the recording method. The end piece is now very good. Her voice is craftsmanship and is copywrite protected. But without sales there is no income from this piece. Is sales considered an art? I would say there are 4 artists here. Without a team the piece would be worth nothing but self pride. Quote
Dan Posted January 9, 2021 Report Posted January 9, 2021 I think you are thinking too hard. I'm just in it for the hobby. danny, dgman and RabidAlien 2 1 Quote
GrampaJim Posted January 9, 2021 Report Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Dan said: I think you are thinking too hard. I'm just in it for the hobby. Yup, my head hurts. Quote
preprius Posted January 10, 2021 Author Report Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Dan said: I think you are thinking too hard. I'm just in it for the hobby. Well I'm not trying to invent calculus. A picture was posted in a fun posting. Why are these categories important? I emailed into a news station some trend I observed. They emailed be back that my story has been aired and they said I am now a director. Oh boy. Categories mean nothing but it is cool that I shared my observation and it was shared with others. amazingkevin 1 Quote
Scrappile Posted January 10, 2021 Report Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Hey,,, we, sorry can not speak for others ,,,,, I,, be just country folk here..... !! No clue what you be meaning.... Edited January 10, 2021 by Scrappile Quote
teachnlearn Posted January 11, 2021 Report Posted January 11, 2021 If a tree falls in a forrest, can I disregard the sound and have the right to cut it into scroll saw patterns? RJF Quote
preprius Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Posted January 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, teachnlearn said: If a tree falls in a forrest, can I disregard the sound and have the right to cut it into scroll saw patterns? RJF unless you want to capture the sound waveforms in to pattern. Quote
LarryEA Posted January 11, 2021 Report Posted January 11, 2021 Yep, nope, maybe, could be. Maybe someone whiffed something Quote
kmmcrafts Posted January 11, 2021 Report Posted January 11, 2021 So basically in this scenario here.. God created the art.. just happen to be a photographer there and snapped a photo.. a pattern designer created a pattern from the picture that was taken of Gods art. Then a scroll sawer printed the pattern, (oh boy who was involved in making the printer, computer internet etc where I get the pattern this is going to be long if i don't skip some processes ) selected just the right piece of wood with the right size, grain orientation color tones for that pattern. Cut it out and finishes it.. Re-created art from Gods original art. Then the portrait is reset up in a photo studio to take photos of the said picture of Gods art and pictures are created from mans photo to the designers pattern to the woodworkers art.. Perfect display to put it up for sale.. My brain is starting to hurt now.. Kind of reminds me on the song " I know an old lady who swallowed a fly " .. At the end of the day in my mind.. God is the original artist and we should thank him for all we see and can do to recreate the art. Quote
teachnlearn Posted January 11, 2021 Report Posted January 11, 2021 5 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: So basically in this scenario here.. God created the art.. just happen to be a photographer there and snapped a photo.. a pattern designer created a pattern from the picture that was taken of Gods art. Then a scroll sawer printed the pattern, (oh boy who was involved in making the printer, computer internet etc where I get the pattern this is going to be long if i don't skip some processes ) selected just the right piece of wood with the right size, grain orientation color tones for that pattern. Cut it out and finishes it.. Re-created art from Gods original art. Then the portrait is reset up in a photo studio to take photos of the said picture of Gods art and pictures are created from mans photo to the designers pattern to the woodworkers art.. Perfect display to put it up for sale.. My brain is starting to hurt now.. Kind of reminds me on the song " I know an old lady who swallowed a fly " .. At the end of the day in my mind.. God is the original artist and we should thank him for all we see and can do to recreate the art. So, God has every right to collect all of your sales, cause its his original work. RJF kmmcrafts 1 Quote
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