Spraying the pattern with glue

[jimmyG]

I use 3M Super 77 spray glue and it works fine but....

When I lay the pattern upside down on craft paper to spray it, over spray gets under it and leaves a film.

Am I doing it wrong? Should I just hold it in a gloved hand and spray it?

[Bill WIlson]

Might be applying too much spray?

I use newspaper (yes, they are still good for something) and lay a fresh sheet down for each spraying.

[rafairchild2]

I crumple up my craft paper that I use as my surface protector, so I have ridges underneath what I am spraying. I hold my 3M can about 12 or so inches away (perpendicular) and give the stencil a light coat of glue.  I never have issues with either bleed or under/over spray.  I think you are either spraying too much, too close so it is flipping up the edge, or too much glue.

After I spray, I pick up the glued piece and wave it in the air a couple times to start the setting process. You should see my over used craft paper, it has a coating of glue sludge on it I have used it so many times..

Edited October 5, 2023 by rafairchild2

[Scrappile]

I have a board covered with news paper (I agree still good for something but I have to rely on others for my news paper I have not subscribed to one in the past 30 years) I stand the board up so I can hold the spray can level.  The pattern is stuck to the news paper via dried spray or a piece of painters tape the is taped in an "O" to stick to the news paper and the pattern.  Just the way I have always done it.

[Gene Howe]

Those real estate flyers and the like make good surface to spray patterns on. Find them near the grocery store entances. Open one up, spray, the pattern, turn the page and, repeat. Lots of surfaces for free.

Edited October 5, 2023 by Gene Howe

[Wichman]

When you spray be sure to keep the can at 90* from the patterns.  if you use a rocking motion while you spray, you hit the edges of the pattern with the spray pressure and that can lift the edges slightly allowing adhesive under the pattern. It's hard to get your mind to do it, but keep the spray nozzle about 12" away from the patterns, this reduces the spray pressure at the pattern and will reduce lifting the paper.

I don't know if you have them where you live, but here I can get the free advertising paper called "The Thrifty Nickel". It's newsprint paper and about a half sheet to regular newspapers. 

[jimmyG]

Thanks for the tips...

I need all the help I can get

[JimErn]

Well I am the odd man out.

I position the pattern on the wood

use a paper clamp to hold one corner or edge (free of the cutting area)

 

Then I fold the pattern over the clamp so it hangs off the wood

hold the wood/pattern over a trash can and spray the pattern, then just smooth it down on the wood.  Since the trash can has a trash bag in it, that catches the over spray.

YMMV

[Norm Fengstad]

I have always been using super m 77 spray and a card board box on edge for a spray booth for years.  Spray can quit working a while ago so tried a scotch guard glue stick surprised me on how well it worked. 

[BadBob]

21 hours ago, Norm Fengstad said:

scotch guard glue stick

Which one did you use? 3M makes several glue sticks.

What solvent is needed to remove any glue residue?

[James E. Welch]

I spray on a piece of cardboard but overspray still gets everywhere. One thing I have found to be handy is to throw a handful of sawdust onto your work piece to keep your hands from getting sticky. 

[FrankEV]

First of all, I always make my pattern paper (after printing) and my cut panel the same size.    I decide what the panel size is to be a head of time, and locate my cut pattern on the paper so it is properly positioned where I want it to be on the panel.  This lets me apply the Spray 3M-77 entirely to both surfaces without having any exposed sticky areas.

I position the pattern paper square on the cut panel using a strip of blue tape on just one edge.  I then take it outside, near my trash bins, turn back the pattern (like opening a book) and spray both the back of the paper and the face of the cut panel (with or without shelf liner on the panel).  I immediately kind-of roll the paper onto the panel being careful not to let the paper wrinkle or allow the free end of the paper to touch, and then smooth it out edge to edge. 

I'm in Florida where weather is nice most of the time, but I think this can be done anywhere as I only need about a minute or two to complete this procedure.   Here in Florida,I'm lucky that if it is raining, usually, I only have to wait a short time for the rain to stop and the sun to come out.

I don't/won't spray glue inside my shop as no matter what protection is used, air borne glue particles gets on everything making it sticky and attracts dust to cling that doesn't come off easy. 

[Norm Fengstad]

On 10/9/2023 at 4:11 AM, BadBob said:

Which one did you use? 3M makes several glue sticks.

What solvent is needed to remove any glue residue?

I used a de-scented varsol type for pattern release or a paint thinner. Actually it peeled of quite easily with little spirits coaxing. As to which 3m glue stick it was a greenish white tube. I didn't know there was other kinds. however I went to three places in the small town where I live and none of them handled 3mm so I bought a UHF brand seems to work not to bad however this portrait pattern I am presently doing, I used some clear packing tape around the pattern edges. This seemed to help with pattern lift

[BadBob]

34 minutes ago, Norm Fengstad said:

This seemed to help with pattern lift

That is a problem I have always had with using glue sticks to hold patterns. I use Elmer's Glue Sticks for tiny pieces that are difficult to spray.

Edited October 16, 2023 by BadBob

[kmmcrafts]

I hate spray adhesives and glues with a passion, LOL... so I don't use them unless absolutely have to... Most things I cut fit on one standard size 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper.. so rather than fuss with the mess of overspray and stickiness everywhere I print my patterns on full sheet self adhesive shipping labels. 

I do put down self adhesive shelf liner first as shipping labels are meant to not ever fall off a package so they stick quite well to the wood.. but the shelf liner peels right back off... so it's shelf liner then apply the pattern printed shipping label. The labels at the box stores are a bit pricey so I search them out on eBay or Amazon.. I also use the for my online business so I order large wholesale quantity so they aren't too bad priced.. probably cheaper than the paper+spray+mess etc etc.. 

IF you do very large project regularly and have a large format printer you can special order full sheet adhesive papers in the large format sizes too.. can't remember off the top of my head what website it was that I used to order them from.. most my projects these days fit on a regular paper so I no longer need them. They was reasonably priced too so long as you ordered a 100 or so. 

Sure is way less mess to deal with and sure is nice to just print, peel, and stick without having sticky everywhere..