Thanks DW,some get red and some blue ,one burgundy and one naked ,that what he wanted so i gave him aromatic cedar by choice.I'm fired up to set up shop now that my health is really telling me now or never.Been under the weather way to many years unknowingly.Just thought it was old age.I forsee a bowl soon to .Remind me!.I found a nice place to design bowls which you probably know about it's "scrollmania"polydraw.Let me know if its useful to you. :) :) :)