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You make it sound as though you've never made a mistake before so no one else should either, LOL They are human and mistakes happen.. easy to get mixed up when your packing several orders a day... that said.. I don't do business with companies that have messed up more than 2- 3 times for me either.. Leslies Patterns comes to mind when I say that.. Also hate doing business with companies that have poor communication.... If I email them and they take more than three days to reply back.. etc.. I've got about 3500 orders I've done over the years.. and all 5 star rated and positive feedback.. My first mistake was last Christmas time.. same lady did two orders but one with a different address.. and I sent both to the wrong address.. as I got them mixed p backwards, LOL but they went to the same person just wrong address's.. I right away mailed out both orders to the correct places and told them to keep or donate the others to their favorite charity..

You probably could make a slot in a piece of angle iron and bolt it into the same bolt hole and use a shorter bolt so it doesn't still hit the bolt.. Then put a soft piece of molding ( maybe car door edge trim? ) or a couple beads of RTV silicone to sort of cushion it so you don't damage the upper arm..

Use to be a seller on Etsy that never cut those fine lines like that.. they always cut the main stuff and then wood burn (Pyrography) the details into the rest of it.. Always looked nice.. and is an idea for some things I suppose.. but me and wood burning.. event though i have a nice burner outfit.. looks like I hit it with a torch instead LOL

Les My old 220VS Hawk someone must have taken the stopper off.. as that one the arm goes WAY up.. in fact when I broke a blade one day the arm sprung up and busted my light bulb in my magnifier, LOL Being it was my first Hawk I didn't know it was supposed to be there.. Then when I got my Hawk 226 the arm didn't go up very high.. I never gave it a lot of thought until just about a week ago when I was doing a bigger project the the arm was always in my way.. to fix it... I just switch over to the 220VS.. but then started having a blade breaking issue.. My fault of coarse LOL.. anyway long story short I switch back to the 226.. even with the arm not going all the way up.. Finally when i had enough I started investigating what the heck it was hitting.. LOL.. I had thought about doing just what you was talking about.. But do note.. while it does help some.. the accessory arm then gets in the way.. or.. the blower tube, LOL I don't know if anyone else had done this or not.. but I'm considering either drilling that or making a L shape bracket and cut the bolt shorter so then provided you position the bracket correctly would let the arm come down a little farther.. this way you can possibly adjust it? Otherwise drilling holes might turn it into swiss cheese before you get a desirable distance, like they say.. measure once cut twice.. or was that measure twice cut three times, LOL

I found this on eBay but it's not the same.. I did some looking but haven''t found anything yet.. might just be someone did their own design and it's not available for purchase.. https://www.ebay.com/itm/DXF-CDR-File-For-CNC-Plasma-Laser-Cut-Tailor-Shop-Sewing-Salon-Clock/232654400416?hash=item362b486ba0:g:6JAAAOSwxOFadxL4:rk:1:pf:0

I've had a ton of request from customers this last year for many of the record clock styles but cut from wood.. I started looking into files a bit.. there seems to be a ton of files made for the CNC laser.. many are selling on eBay.. I'm sure i've seen this somewhere.. but these sellers seem to be scattered all over the place for the CNC type files.. from Amazon, eBay and even Etsy.. I found several I want to buy from eBay and will be doing some soon.. Not sure is wall hanging clocks are making a comeback or what.. I mostly sold out of them over the holidays and slowly building back my inventory. If I run across this one I'll point you to it.. Many times if you see a file made for CNC you can ask the seller to change it to PDF.. they probably scratch there heads on that as to why because they won't work on your CNC. but most are happy to do so.. Then you just print the file like a normal pattern..

Shipping is not bad if you're ordering 100 pcs at a time.. but yeah I agree if your just ordering 1-5 clocks.. then definitely a bit high.. then again they do have shipping materials to buy and if you're only buying a couple clocks.. it's costing them more for shipping materials than they make on the clocks.. so I see both sides of the coin.. If they are buying them at the same cost as I do $2 each.. and they sell to you at $6 each and you only buy 2-5 clocks.. they have to take a loss on the shipping box and bubble wrap.. unless they get a free priority mail box which in turn the cheapest priority mail box now days is like $8.. If they buy boxes they can get a box at about $.50 each and mail first class which would be around $3 - 4 shipping.. so they don't make a killing on this unless they charge higher shipping shipping.. I'm betting most clock orders are only 5-10 pcs at a time.. take time out of the day to package the order and it shows you really don't make a lot of money on them.. which I'm sure is why they keep cheapening up the clocks.. If I were to sell clocks.. they'd be pricey for the orders of 1-10 clocks but with quantity they'd get much lower cost.. due to the shipping cost.. Sloans and other places do offer quantity discounts.. woodworkingparts do not..

5-6 years ago when I first started using them the clocks was $5.05.. from woodworkingparts no quantity discounts.. everyone else was $6.35+ with the exception of Sloans unless you buy 30 or more.. then sloans was cheaper.. at the time I was only dealing with people that took online orders and paypal payments.. before I really started my business.. now woodworkingparts sells the clocks at $8.. and sloans is $6.. unless you buy quantity.. then you can get them as low as $5.25.. BUT, you're still getting a cheap made clock.. they are good clocks as far as motors running and keeping time etc. Or at least was (see below about this ) But my experience with the plastic housings is they clips get brittle and crack / break off.. I'm sure there might be a supplier of the metal ones somewhere online.. but I've never found them so I went on a hunt to buy a quality made clock.. turned out.. I get them cheaper than I can buy the cheapo ones for anywhere.. As a hobbyist, I'd still be dealing with woodworking parts. as they do have good service and as a hobbyist.. I liked buying my stuff online..anytime of the day /night.. sloans is hard for me to remember to take a minute out of my day to call in my order.. which is inconvenient to me.. For me I'd pay more for the convenience of online ordering. As for the Quality of clocks.. My experience has been most all clocks are made from the same company or supplier.. you just choose the price point and the service from whom you buy from... BUT.. use to be most all the clocks run the same PC21S movement ( basically a seiko watch moveent ) but now there are a Chinese movement also available.. and a lower priced clock.. I ran out of clocks for a bit last year and needed more before my supplier could get them to me.. so i ordered a small amount from Sloans.. These I received was packaged differently while the plastic case and dial looked the same.. Pretty sure the movement is different.. and I suspect they maybe selling the cheaper Chinese made movement clocks now.. I never did look to see for sure so I don't know.. I only ended up selling one to a customer then my neighbor came for some more clocks to buy and I sold those to him as I wasn't going to use the plastic ones any more than I had too.. If I thought the interest would be high enough.. I'd get myself a retail sales licence and become a supplier for the better made metal cased clocks.. I do sell a few here and there but if interest was there I'd start another business.. I think I could really be a competitor of these suppliers that are ripping people for a plastic clock case and now maybe switching over to the cheap movements.. But then.. suppliers stopped buying the metal ones because of price.. so.. who knows maybe its a dying business and these suppliers just buying the cheapest they can to hang on to the business.. I can't see spending hours to make a beautiful clock only to put a junk insert in it, LOL But whatever..

I did a lot of business with these guys when mom and dad ran the place in WI.. When they retired and the kids took over ( still awesome people and service ) they moved it to FL.. and started inching up the prices. I still do business with them but the prices started taking my interest elsewhere.. I moved to sloans.. another awesome place to deal withand about $3 cheaper per clock.. same manufacture.. Then i found the actual manufacture and buy direct.. clocks are $2 each and I custom order them with metal cases and better motors for higher quality.. Downfall to direct is ordering several hundred at a time.. but I typically sell a few to a woodworker guy down the street and some on eBay etc to not have them setting around here forever going bad.. Thought about becoming a retailer for clock parts.. You can't even buy the quality clocks that I get here in the USA anyway.. all of them here are plastic..

I have a ton of keychains I made about 8 years ago.. They are silhouette cutout and then glued to a backer with a hole drilled for the chain.. I used the InLace material on some of them and sold them for a while.. they was good sellers at the time but the ones I have on hand wouldn't really look good with the red or black inlace.. so I got to thinking about the resin.. would rather have a clear probably gloss.. The first chain I made is one I use and have carried for a long time.. still holding up well with the inlace.. The reason I never sold the others is I thought the cutout would catch or snag the insides of the pocket or ?? and damage the pocket and or the cutting.. so i really wanted to fill this cutout.. back at that time.. i'd never heard of the epoxy resins.. and I have no experience with them at all.. Is this stuff strong durable stuff? Like if I coat the whole keychain will it wear off quickly? If I only fill the void area.. can i sand it flush and buff it out shiny again.. I guess my real question is.. Is it strong and durable and how would you do this.. Just fill the void as level as you can without creating a lump. or lump it up and sand it down.. I'm contemplating buying some of this stuff.. If I do.. what's the shelf life of it? I have other projects I'd probably use it on eventually but.. from what i see a gallon works out cheaper than a 16oz. but then mayby not if I only use 16oz and the rest goes bad LOL.. Looking for any tips or advice on these.. I need to do something with about 100 keychains that have just been setting in limbo for a Looonnggg time.. I need to move them out.. Heck.. if they are still good sellers.. Maybe I'll make many more of them, LOL

Awesome, I think I'll order from Seyco.. since I have a couple other things I want to order from them..

Bill you bring up a lot of good points about where the saw is made etc.... The awesome price that they are selling these saws now will probably drive down the market of used ones.. or make them harder to sell? Those that shop used might consider keeping an eye out for the China made one.. not sure if the China one will be a problematic saw or not.. but it'll sure make used shopping more interesting to figure out with all these different saw options now.

Half slice of bread and barely enough butter... but it was good... the process to get the bread and butter, the comments from happy customers etc was what really made it worth the effort..

Very nicely done.. I've cut and sold a few of the cat clocks in the past.. Fun ones to make for sure..

I've given some thought to many of the wonderful ideas you all have suggested.. I think for me the best route is going to be buying the smaller tubes.. I measured the holes on the saw.. and they appear to be around 5/8" wide and 1-1/4 tall oval slots.. Not too king on drilling holes in a brand new saws base really.. and further more.. the tubes I have are quite large at least 3/4 inch but thinking maybe even slightly larger than that.. The step drill at my local hardware was like $18 but I see harbor freight has them much cheaper.. either way .. not to interested in drilling on a fairly new tool.. If I do take the saw to the camp site this summer.. I'll only take just the saw.. because I wont have the space to put it inside with the stand and everything.. so thinking the slots they have made is what will work best for me.. so guess I'll be buying some tubes...

Thanks for all the opinions.. they pretty much say what i was thinking myself.. I think I'll just set this project off the the side and soon I've gotta place an order for some 3-1/2" inserts so I think I'll just order a clock for this project.. then I think the next one I cut I'll size it to fit the clocks I keep on hand.. If I do all these patterns to to the specs that the designers suggestions I'd need to own a clock parts store with all the different sizes and styles, LOL Thanks again everyone,

Well I really am not in any hurry.. not like I don't have a saw or two or five to use .. that said.. why can't they put some sort of info about this on the website..or message a customer with some kind of information.. I think this is my biggest issue about the deal.. I wonder if this is how RBI ran the business back in the day? No wonder so many brand new never used old Hawks out there for sale... the folks that ordered them died before they received it.. At least I can joke about it, I'm not really mad.. just annoyed with how they handle informing the customer.. Maybe I should have ordered over the phone and maybe they would have given me some info about how long etc..or at least say it's back ordered.. hearing nothing whatsoever is what has me annoyed.. not the fact it's taking a long time... heck its cold in the shop and I doubt I'd set it up anyway.. I think this original topic got really derailed LOL

I have Nicole;s email as she sent me some documents on my 220VS so i replied to the email right after posting this.. I'll wait a couple days for a reply and then I suppose I will give them a call.. I understand what you mean and they have always been great to me with questions and parts.. I get real annoyed with business's that have websites and emails etc because it only takes a min to update someone about their order.. I know they have their hands in multipal stuff.. I do to.. and would almost bet that I get more orders a year than they do on the Hawks and parts.. yet I still manage to send every customer a email after every sale with approximate times of when I will be mailing out their order.. this is 200 plus orders a week starting from Oct. through to the new year.. on top of making my product and and packaging it.. yeah it's a lot of work.. and I'm only one person to answer email questions etc.. so when other business's don't bother.. It make me think my business isn't all that important to them.. It's not about not getting my saw.. I know it'll come sooner or later.. It's more about not giving a crap about the customer.. Then again, they've always been awesome on the phone.. and maybe online selling isn't really their thing.. the website is outdated and they've had products saying pictures coming soon for the three years I've been dealing with them.. I think they " could " have a booming business IF they ran it better... but it could be just a tax write off business for them on one of the other aspects of their business so they really don't care... whatever the case.. it seems as though they really don't care.. Anyway.. I'll give them a few days to respond to the email and then try to call if no reply..

Rolf, I ordered on the 23rd of Dec.. and then I had a question to ask about my old 220VS so I gave them a call about that on the 4th of Jan.. and I mentioned to Nicki that I had a new one on the way.. I only mentioned it because she asked me if I had an account.. so she looked up my account and said something about my saw hasn't shipped out yet.. That was all that was said.. I just went through looking for Iggy's post to see how long it was for him (5 weeks) as I know it was a long time because they was Harvesting etc.. at the time.. I didn't want to call and rush them into getting me a bad product because they was tired and rushed to get it out.. But yeah... I think if they keep this kind of thing up they won't be sellin too many saws for very long.... I love my two Hawks and am looking forward to my new one.. but I'm getting close to pulling the trigger and canceling the order.. $1800 with everything I ordered with it.. I knew going into this that it could take some time just by how Iggys experience was... however.. the excuse at that time was harvesting.. Do they harvest this time of year down there? I don't know I'm not a farmer but up here in MI only thing you could harvest this time of year is snow.. .. My thinking is I doubt they have these ready to ship.. or at least not many of them.. and being Christmas time may have depleted their inventory.. and.. most business's like to have very little inventory at the end of the year for tax reasons.. so.. maybe they are in running a batch of the parts... having bases and frames powder coated etc etc.. Still.. I went into this knowing they was slow at getting them out.. but most probably wouldn't know this.. a simple email saying something along the lines of being back ordered and will be XX days/weeks before they'd have something ready to mail.. but nothing.. not a word last Sunday was 6 weeks.. My opinion.. if they are going to be more than a couple weeks. they should have this stated on the website where you order.. of coarse..before you place the order.. something in BOLD print on the description page of the saw saying something like.. Saw May take X weeks before we can ship it.. otherwise your guess is mine.. I may be stubborn but.. If they can't reach out to me.. the only reaching out to them I will be doing will be to cancel out the order.. there is no reason they can't send out a message saying X amount of time because it's back ordered.. Every other business does this.. My CNC was back ordered.. while I never got any approximation time.. I was told it was back ordered.. I didn't get anything from Hawk other than my automated receipt that I got when I placed the order.. BTW, My CNC showed up in 3 weeks.. and they was REALLY back order.. They sold a lot of these on Black Friday and was back ordered about that time right on through.. I placed my order the Friday before that Sunday that I order the Hawk..

Just a heads up on the Hawk.. If you order a new one now.. by the time you receive it the seyco might be worn out... at least that is sort of how I'm feeling right now about the new Hawk I ordered 6 weeks ago and have not hear or seen anything about the saw short of the automated message with my order details.. You might want to consider the Hegner if you're in a hurry for a saw.. Just sayin..

This is what happens when you put the cart in front of the horse, LOL... I didn't give much thought to the clock size until I had already cut it out.. next time if I cut it again.. I'll likely change the design either bigger or smaller to fit the clocks I use.. See what happens after cutting so many ornaments? I forget how to make clocks... Actually spent most of my day today looking for that perfect portrait style pattern to cut.. I love cutting them but... they are a little harder to sell.. so I just cut one out every now and then... been a year since I've done a portrait cutting.. Man... so many choices.. have spent way too much time searching for the one I want. might as well just make some more clocks I guess that way I'll at least get something done ... I have inventory to build up but just looking for something that I haven't yet cut and give myself a bit of challenge.. Dang, Never mind... just got an order come in... now I have something to make

Cut this out this morning, pattern suggest 2-1/8 inch clock insert. Not wanting to add yet another size to my inventory I’m going with something I already have on hand. First picture is a 2” insert and the other is 2-3/4” What one looks best in your opinion? I personally think I’ll pribably go with the 2” but thought I’d ask others opinions. Probably make a base out of a contrasting color ( probably walnut ). The larger clock doesn’t leave much wood around the edge but the actual hole is only 2 or 2-1/8 I think so plenty of room even though it doesn’t look like it. If I was to make it as a wall type clock which I thought about, I think the larger clock would be better.

The popular angles is a good point.. Personally, since 2005 when I started scroll sawing.. I've only angles the saw maybe 5-6 times.. so yes.. not a factor for me.. I do like the knob turning feature of my Excalibur way over the way Hawk and DeWalt have theirs.. I'll say my Hawk is probably the worst angle design as it always catches / binds ( not smooth and easy to move ) but I'm not sure how the new one will be.. I'll tell you if I ever receive it, LOL The blade chucks / clamps is what is most attractive to me.. provided the price point make it a value to buy the Pegas.. The upgrade for my Excalibur was well worth the extra $100.. as I was about ready to trash the saw and send it to someone else to deal with.. those clamps made the saw very much more user friendly.. I think I would have got used to the stock ones eventually.. as I'm sure it was just a learning curve as was my Hawks..

Yes, my thinking too... We typically spend most of our summer at a local campground... I'd like to take a saw with me.. and the Hawks are too big and heavy.. I'm considering buying a 16" Excalibur once I get some of these other saws sold.. But I might just take the EX-21 too.. not sure of the weight difference .. but either way those slots for the tubes are a nice feature.. that is if we can get tubes that fit.. I'm probably going to buy some from Lee Valley as mentioned above.. but will wait to see if anyone post any other options first..

While the saws are basic same design.. there is more to it than just color.. such as.. blade clamps and detents in the angle adjuster.. some are gear crank to change angle while others just loosen the knob and you manually angle by hand rather than cranking the knob.. so as to not miss represent these saws.. they are not all the same.. while most of the main design of the saw is the same they all have different feature.. A BIG plus on the Pegas is the standard pegas clamp.. and the detents in the angle for the more popular angles.. Sure they are the same saw frame.. just different options and colors to choose from.. price points might sway ones opinion.. for me personally.. price being equal in all saws.. I'd go with Pegas simply for the better clamps.. @meflick Hawks are also orange... LOL Orange paint = quality saw.. when will the other manufactures catch on to this