I appreciate the comments. I think I will be patient and go to the midwest scroll saw show in Aug. I will be able to compare the Hawk with new Seyco. I like my Dewalt but I don't think it was built for the use I give it. I had my first one for nine months. The bearings went out of it add Dewalt replaced it with a new one. If been using my current one for about five months and it is starting to make some knocking noises just the same as my first one.