Well my new to me EX16 arrived.As the UPS driver was taking it out of the truck I saw nothing but packing nuts fall out of the box and one leg showing thru a hole.What do you think of someone who packs a 57# saw to ship from CA.to PA with just packing nuts and a couple of sheets of brown paper.The saw was scratched up a bit.One rubber foot missing.I bought the stand for it,so did not need the foot.All said and done I spent an hour tuning it up.Adjusting everything,.Removing the vac system,Hooking up my own collector.I mounted on the EX stand and did some test cuts.Very happy so far.The discription said it had 2 hours on it There are some scratches on the table But from what i have seen on You Tube This seems to be normal with the EX.I like the blade install on it and it runs nice.Saturday I will give it a work out.