Just checking craigs list. Dozens of saws for sale. Mostly cheap and old. But better saws cheap. Examples: 14" PS Woods, mint condition with stand $150, 20" PS Woods used but in new condition with stand $195, 220 Hawk says excellent condition with stand $200, 2 older EX 21 $750 and $900. I am a bit suspicious of the EX's. They appear very old, do not have tilting heads and look totally different than modern ones and the price seems outrageous. I bought my two Hawks for $200 each. One is a 220VS and the other is a mistake. I bought it without knowing anything about scroll saws except that Hawks had a good reputation. I bought it in Colorado springs. The craigs list photo looked excellent. I bought it without trying it. It never occurred it had no motor. I just assumed the motor was inside the chassis. Found out it was made to fit a ShopSmith which I do not have. I did power it with a belt and pulley arrangement and made it a single speed saw. Outside of that it is an excellent little saw. However, if someone with a ShopSmith could use it I will make a great deal. Since then I have read and researched much. I am much better informed. Not smarter, just better informed.