AI?

[sdgood]

Hey guys. Steve Good here. Sorry, I came to this topic late. I use AI for 99% of the patterns I have created over the last two years, but there is a big catch. The big catch is that AI will very rarely generate a scroll saw pattern that can be cut on the scroll saw. I do not use it for that; I use it to generate copyright-free source images. Then I use those source images to generate the actual pattern by hand in CorelDRAW. Before AI, I had to scour the internet for copyright-free material that I could use in a pattern. For example, if I were designing a western cowboy scene, I would use AI to generate the horse, cowboy, and whatever else I needed. Then I take those parts and use them after they have been modified to work in my pattern to design the complete pattern. I'm not saying that AI is incapable of designing a complete, ready-to-cut scroll saw pattern but it would require considerable training for it to be consistent. Also, keep in mind that I have generated a new pattern almost every day for 17 years. I have to find ways to save time. AI saves me hours a day of searching and tracing work. I also spent a couple of months working on the AI prompt to generate detailed silhouette-type images that I can use. The whole process is way more involved than the media lets on. AI still takes time and does not often give you wat you need without lots of effort.

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

15 hours ago, sdgood said:

Hey guys. Steve Good here. Sorry, I came to this topic late. I use AI for 99% of the patterns I have created over the last two years, but there is a big catch. The big catch is that AI will very rarely generate a scroll saw pattern that can be cut on the scroll saw. I do not use it for that; I use it to generate copyright-free source images. Then I use those source images to generate the actual pattern by hand in CorelDRAW. Before AI, I had to scour the internet for copyright-free material that I could use in a pattern. For example, if I were designing a western cowboy scene, I would use AI to generate the horse, cowboy, and whatever else I needed. Then I take those parts and use them after they have been modified to work in my pattern to design the complete pattern. I'm not saying that AI is incapable of designing a complete, ready-to-cut scroll saw pattern but it would require considerable training for it to be consistent. Also, keep in mind that I have generated a new pattern almost every day for 17 years. I have to find ways to save time. AI saves me hours a day of searching and tracing work. I also spent a couple of months working on the AI prompt to generate detailed silhouette-type images that I can use. The whole process is way more involved than the media lets on. AI still takes time and does not often give you wat you need without lots of effort.

Welcome aboard Steve to our little world  of scrollers. Your work and patterns have been received with great joy and with complete satisfaction. To do what you do for us scrollers is unmatched. I myself have done quite a few of your patterns with some adding my own touches. Your name comes up alot here as well as other scrolling sites especially when people are looking for specific themed patterns. I am sure you probably noticed that scrolling is not quite as popular as it once was. Over the years we lost some great pattern designers. Thankfully there are still some great designers such as yourself that still feed the hunger we scrollers have. Many innovations as well as many new saws have hit the market over the years. Along with that new tools and Guess AI is now added to that list. Seems AI will be involved in so many facets of our lives now and in the future. With that said keep doing what you are doing and using whatever tools necessary. You give a great service to the scrolling world and to us artisans that sometimes make a few $$$ from our work. 

 

Now being a little selfish on my part may I put in a request for some patterns in the future. At one time years ago I wrote to you asking to see more patterns dealing with the trades (being I grew up in them as an electrician for 43 years). I believe there is a great push and rightly so these days to bring back the Vocational training in the various trades and even the newer ones such as computer Techs. But the trades such as Electrician, Plumbers, Carpenters, Iron Workers, Steel workers, Bricklayers, Laborers all still are prevalent in todays society. Over the years I have made many of these type scrollsawn projects to attract potential buyers at my shows. I was fortunate to be able to use some of the talented pattern makers we have here for which I am thankful for. I have used a few of your patterns from this genre too. I guess what I am saying it is always great to see new patterns in this arena.  

But above all thank you for what you do and hope you continue for as long as you want.

[OCtoolguy]

Well said J.T. please add my name to it. Thank you Steve for all you do and have done for the world of scrollsawing.

Edited June 19, 2025 by OCtoolguy

[Wichman]

4 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

Welcome aboard Steve to our little world  of scrollers.

Just a note JT, SG has been a member of SSV since joining in 2017.  

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

2 hours ago, Wichman said:

Just a note JT, SG has been a member of SSV since joining in 2017.  

Just a note back to you, his very first post so I am not sure how many people would have known that.  Good time to welcome him and say hello. 

Edited June 20, 2025 by JTTHECLOCKMAN

[BadBob]

I spent hours trying to get Grok to draw a simple cutable scroll saw pattern. It never got close.

[TAIrving]

3 hours ago, BadBob said:

I spent hours trying to get Grok to draw a simple cutable scroll saw pattern. It never got close.

I wonder if it would do any better at an intarsia pattern.  Might have to try that.  

[Dave Monk]

I looked around to find a Phoenix pattern and I couldn't find one that I was in love with.  Chat GPT came up with this image and I put it into Inkscape and traced it. 

[Scrappile]

WOW!  @Dave Monk, that is absolutely beautiful!  You out did the AI version.

Edited June 20, 2025 by Scrappile

[DrPete]

I just put this prompt into perplexity as a start for a project I had in mind. As you see in opinion it failed even for a start.

This was my prompt:

Generate a photo frame out of wood that spells the name CHERISH that is traceable

This is going to take quite a bit to make it usable. I generate or grab an image and use inkscape to trace into an svg that I can print to scroll.

[Dave Monk]

4 hours ago, Scrappile said:

WOW!  @Dave Monk, that is absolutely beautiful!  You out did the AI version.

Thanks. If I make another one I thing I will make some changes to the wings. 

[TAIrving]

I tried to access Grok.  My computer, which is much smaller than me, connected me to CoPilot.

I asked CoPilot how to create an intarsia pattern from a photograph and it gave me a detailed procedure on how to create a croquet pattern from a photograph.

Next I asked it how to create a line drawing from a photograph and got several reasonable ways to do that.  FWIW, an intarsia pattern is a lot like a line drawing.  

It will take quite a bit of clean-up work to make the line drawing into an intarsia pattern, but it is a good start.  

[Matt B]

A while back, I tried with Grok.  It did not seem to understand what we need in a scrollsaw pattern.   

[crupiea]

I thought this would work too but I ended up with just a regular picture with a scroll saw incorporated in to it.  I am sure some people who do this stuff all the time can figure out the prompts and such but i am not that guy.