JTTHECLOCKMAN

Great out of the box thinking. Like it alot.

I am familiar with horseshoes and use to be pretty good at it. So I get the concept now. Thanks. I still like Lawn Darts. Too bad they do not sell any more. Dumb people.

OK this posting has the photos. We just had a discussion about copyrights and hope you pay attention if selling these. Looks good even though I have no idea what it is.

you forgot something

I have sealed the BB with shellac on both sides. I attached my photo that I want cut both front and back of BB (3/8" may change this to 1/4") with 3M 77 adhesive. I then sealed the photo with satin lacquer both sides and looks good. I then placed purple (low tack) tape over the front and back to protect the photo from scratching. I then sprayed adhesive to back of pattern sheet and placed on top of photo. I thought the tape would both protect the back and control the fuzzies on the back. Not enough as it turns out and I can not sand because of the print on the back. When I went to pull the pattern off and the tape in the back it pulled the photo paper apart with it in some spots. Not good. What Steve says he does is first he is not doing a 2 sided print so that is no big deal. But he attaches print to good BB and the attaches the pattern to a seperate 1/8" piece of BB and then sandwiches them together and wraps clear packing tape and cuts each piece out. I tried to cut rows out and then go back and cut the pieces from each row. To me made it easier this way. I did not think that packing tape would hold the entire puzzle together long enough to get them all cut out because as you cut the sides away there is nothing holding together top and bottom. Thus my method. Now what I am going to try next is use some very low tack tape used in the musical industry when repairing guitars. Also bought some poster board to use on the back to take up for the fuzzies. Will have to see how this goes. If not then I may have to try his method. Just taping the ends will not work because as I said you cut the center pieces there is nothing holding the sandwich together. His method may work and thus that is why I am asking if anyone has used it and to give me a report. Progress noted.

Boy I am going to have to try some new things if I want this to work. I may have to try Steve Goods method of wrapping the entire project with clear packing tape. I did not think this would hold all the pieces together as you cut them. I just ordered some super low tack tape and hope this might help because the low tack tape (purple ) I am using is lifting the paper apart. Has anyone done any of Steve Goods puzzles and used his method?? If so how did it go and any do's and don'ts ??

https://www.scrollsawvillage.com/forums/topic/34025-famous-people-copy-rights/ I have to say the last few days I must be reading a whole different set of threads being posted. No where did I see any mocking of this post or calling out of anyone. Just a couple questions that got answered very nicely. Not sure how many people here sell on Etsy, Ebay or even their own web sites but i bet it is not many. Copyright laws are no joke and have been a thorn to all who have done any type crafts over the years. Just like these selling sites that want in on the tax money they were losing so do the copyright enforcers. They see an avenue that can generate money or loss of it because of the internet sales that have surpassed the brick and mortar avenues. So the uptick of enforcement. Iggy got to see this in person at a med sized show and I have too many years ago. But everyone knew that Disney, Harley, Sports both college and pro protect their names and brands. This has not changed for 35 years that I have been doing this. Famous people may have hired some company to go after their share. With cell phones and cameras all around us everywhere we go every day of the week. We need to be extra careful when it comes to selling anything. Who knows what is going to happen with all these Garage sale sites showing up on FaceBook. That can be the next attack. So you have been warned there too. But knock off of brands has been a battle that just keeps growing and growing. Don't get caught in the middle and you should be fine. I can not answer to those that sell on those sites and to what words are taboo or not but Kevin has given out this heads up and we thank him. Iggy we thank you too for bringing this up and actually giving a first hand posting.

Tell them to go to the street corners in NY. Those guys are always on the run and well organized with spotters. I have told this before, This is nothing new. I have seen this 35 years ago at a decent craft show with Disney, Harley and sports of all kind. The word got around the show very fast that they were there. Kapernick must have sent them. They confiscate the stuff and then hand it out to their friends.

Boy is this the truth!!! Just go to FaceBook

I am up there too so my tool buying days are few and when I still buy what I want within limits. Let others sort things out when I am gone and who cares then. I worked hard to get what I have so let them work too. Why do we have to hand down the crown jewels. How are they going to learn values. But I will be darned if I deprive myself so they do not get the good stuff. They get the left overs anyway you slice it. I have pen stuff from my other hobby that can fetch big$$ and gave my brother a heads up and what he does with it is his call.

Same reason I am trying 3/8" I am having a hit or miss thing too. Trying to zero in on the sweet spot. They look like they will do what I want. Have to strip the tape off and see if there is fuzzies left on the back. That can be a problem because what I am doing is making a puzzle that is 2 sided. In other words you can get 2 for one with one cutting just by flipping over and may even confuse players more.

Yea they state right on them not intended for 1/2" and up.

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JT, I respect your opinions and value your wealth of knowledge, I guess I get a little touchy on the low end product bashing as many of us start out buying cheap tools.. I started my business with nothing but a freebie scroll saw and even some leftover scraps of plywood and built it up over the years.. When I started out I was using a block of wood and stapled sandpapers to it.. going from that to a power sander was night and day difference.. there is a reason for those HF stores.. not everyone can afford a cheap sander let alone a Festool sander.. I do realize that you get what you pay for.. just as one gets out of business what they put into it.. Again Kevin 2 ways to look at it. Many newbies don't know better and think cheap is as good as better. They wind up spending twice because the first broke down quickly. I wish I had people tell me there were better tools than Craftsman when I started out. These forums were not even around. Bought 2 routers and both broke within 2 years. Rest assured you will not hear another peep from me about HF or Walmart (oh yea same type of store for the same reason)

I may switch to 1/4" to see if that makes a difference. Right now I am basically trying some experimenting. These are taking longer than I envisioned so I may have to jack the final price up. I was hoping to make these as one of those extra gifts people look to buy at Christmas. Make it inexpensive and they can use as a stocking stuffer. Never really made too many puzzles so this is a new area for me. Made a few large puzzles for nephews many years ago but not as many pieces. Will see how it goes.

How do you know they did not use it or one like it?? I am not going to argue with you. If you or anyone else wants to buy whatever tool you want have at it. I feel you are pointing this at me. I have a network of woodworkers that I hang with and most have complete shops of woodworking tools so many times when I comment on things here I think I do bring some first hand knowledge. I will refrain from now on down grading HF and any other tool mentioned here. Good luck and happy woodworking. I just went back and reread the entire thread and nowhere did anyone say do not buy that sander. The sandpaper thing was a takeoff from the thread as things usually do. Weather HF sandpaper is as good as some that is out there can not be disputed but buy cheap, get cheap. Will it get the job done, probably for what we do in the scrolling world. Heck many times a paper bag can do that. ( by the way a paper bag has about 2000 to 2500 grit equivelence in case some one wants to know)

If anyone is interested this is where I buy alot of my sandpaper from. Just another source if anyone is looking. https://www.onlineindustrialsupply.com/abrasive-sheets.html

Well I started making some of the puzzles I talked about and tried FD superior puzzle blade. Now I am cutting 3/8" BB plywood and sure do not get much life with these blades. They do cut smooth and make following the tabs and other cuts easy but breakage is a problem. Need to find some consistency as to how far I can push them and just change before breaking. Going to be ordering a ton more of these blades I can see.

Two ways to look at that sir. Others may be trying to give their opinion as to why not to buy that tool also.

Same old debate just as what is the better saw or what is the best blades. Buy and use what you can afford.

I agree about wearing dust masks. No fan or vac can catch all dust. Dust settles on the floor and as you walk you stir it up and in the air. There are many ways to limit dust and every layer of prevention is a good one but final layer is a good fitting dust mask. They make so many designs today that I am sure there is one just right for all of us. Happy woodworking.

That video that Brian posted sure does go into the whole aspect of sanding with sandpapers and the many varieties and uses. Good information. I mentioned that the topic of sandpaper is one that is not cut and dry. Depending how much you want to get involved in true finishing and optimum finishing techniques will depend on how much value you put into the sandpapers you buy. So again for those that think HF sells great sandpaper than you are the target that store is aiming at. Enjoy. Love the Festool line of tools. My dream of replacing all my tools with their line. We all have dreams like this I bet. The thought about people being adverse to buying cheap tools probably comes from experience and I can speak to that. When I first started I bought many craftsman line of tools and yes they got the job done and over the years they became the HF of tools because they became totally China made and cheap turned into expensive because you had to buy more than one. If you use tools just for the occassional use you can get by with the HF's of the world but if your use is more intense than you want comfort, ease of use, efficient tools that do not need to be replaced every year. So when people show adverse lines toward tools such as HF they probably speak from past experience so do not put them down. Everyones tool usage is not the same. If you had success with the tool you purchased and are happy then you are good to go.

Klingspor gold, Mirka Bulldog gold, and there are others that I use that are very good. I buy in bulk because I use alot of sandpaper in many forms including rolls for my drum sander. I will say again sandpaper is not all the same and if you were able to compare side by side you would see it right away. But to each their own. Happy sanding.

This is why these were invented years ago and they work well if you have the room. https://www.rakuten.com/shop/cpo-outlets/product/SVCN1030000/?sku=SVCN1030000&scid=pla_bing_cpo-outlets&msclkid=0c2806b1e61210b09e615bac9c24d9c1&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping Pro - Desktop&utm_term=4580840325913537&utm_content=Pet Supplies

Man that is a whole subject initself SANDPAPER So many types of sandpaper and not all sandpaper is the same. HF 3M is what the big box stores carry and it is at least better than HF. Look at Norton papers, or Duragold.