JTTHECLOCKMAN

Be careful when you cut the ends off like that air is lost and any lost air affects suction. Those plates are not exact fits in the slots. Just my thoughts.

Way to go. Glad you had fun and picked up a few dollars doing it.

Ray you can disagree and I will disagree with you and my reason is you did not want it to be a business nor did your friends If you want to take your hobby to the next level of a business then you do what it takes to get it there. Half hearted attempts will get you 0. They made a half hearted attempt plain and simple. Did not want to do the work and blame government and anything else. How did Gates get started. How many businesses started out of a basement or a garage because they were driven. This hobby is not self sustaining enough to become a full time business. There is not enough customers to make it a business. Yes people like Kevin can make some money doing it but it is not sustainable. Those customers coming back over and over far and few between. He is constantly looking for new customers. I use him as an example because he is the only one here who has made an attempt at a business and that said he is a one man business. I stand by my thought every business was at one time someone's hobby. When I said I did scrolling and had a business it was similar to what Kevin is doing now but I knew and could see over the years the decline for the work we do. Not even close today what it was 10, 15 or 20 years ago. I had a good job that I did like to go to every day but did enough scrolling on the side that I was forced to call it a business. yes it was work and yes the gov. had their hands in the till but that is life. I got out because as I said it was not sustainable and if someone says it is they are kidding themselves. yes you can make a few dollars if you push yourself. It will not fall in your lap.

What are you talking about?? Every business starts as a hobby. I took scrolling and made it into a business at one time. I doubt that astute person. Have another discussion with them.

I use those gates and at one time was suppose to change to metal ones but never did. What happens is dirt and debris get caught in the corners causing them to not close all the way. You need to clean them out with a thin piece of wire now and then. As far as not sliding well use some dry silicon lubricant and they will close easily. Same stuff you put on tablesaw mechanics. Not the most efficient set-up on the run of that system for sure. Alot of suction power lost.

That organization never lived up to its potential and wishes. Never joined. Hype about nothing in my opinion.

Very easy to check. Lay a machinist square next to the blade and move the arm up and down and watch the space between. Also take a block of wood and draw a straight line on it and place behind the blade and again move the arm up and down and watch the blade. These are the basic checks for all saws. If they are out move the table or move the set screws. Most likely the table got bumped. Most tables pivot on a single point so easy to move out of alignment.

Wonder what it actually was built to cut?? Anyone with an idea??

Kevin I have always used screws on my projects and never had a return or breakage that I know of. Any droppage usually means broken pieces other than where they are attached. I have seen this because I have done it and had accidents at a show. Once you start sawing fret holes in a piece you weaken that wood. The idea when using screws is to have enough material to screw into and to use the right screws. Also drill for pilot holes. That piece needs to sit flat on the base. Just can not see how it would break. As I said fret work is not designed to be dropped. Apply pressure when gluing is not easy and you do need to apply some pressure to take out air pockets. You can look at all my projects I have shown and if it has an upright piece it has been screwed in some fashion. You make many small clocks like I do hat have only 2 small areas to glue so what is the difference between glue and screws. Same holding power. Your examples http://www.scrollsawvillage.com/forums/topic/32330-several-new-clocks-made/ I had shown all my latest projects back in Dec that I made and everyone has screws in them and they are just as strong if not stronger than any glue. Just look at all thread that have the words projects in them and my name. http://www.scrollsawvillage.com/forums/forum/28-bragging-rights/?page=19 I always finish my projects before I assemble them becuae it is so much easier when flat. If I did that then there is no way to get a good glue bond because the oil would prohibit that. But screwing them no problem with bonding at all and as I said I would stand behind the use of screws in a project if done right any day of the week. Mortise and tenon work is used in woodworking all the time but slots and tabs to me are a waste of time and never used them. One other thing I have noticed as difference from me and you is that I make my bases wider than you on my projects so tipping over is virtually impossible. Plus visual reference in my eye tells me how wide to make them. I have no standard meassurements and most plans are used as suggestions and not as solid need to follow ideas.

Just a note here and take it for what it is worth. A drill press is designed for downward pressure and not sideward pressure. Some drill presses use cheap bearings that do not have the radial pressure loads ratings as some of the better ones do. You can damage the quill and chuck if doing alot of hard sanding on a drill press. This can do one of two things. Loosen the chuck from the quill and it can fall out and cause harm or you can bend the shaft and it does not drill accurately again. If you are going to use a drill press as a spindle sander. Note that the sanding is done on one section of the paper as with an oscillating spindle sander it moves up and down the paper. Also keep the chuck at its highest point in the quill and do not lower it to sand. Move the table up and down, not the chuck. As I said just some tidbits. Do as you wish.

It is just the designers way of making the pattern. I never use the tab and slot system. I always screw the piece to the base. I would do the same with that cross. Now there are times I will increase the bottom of the piece so that there is enough material to screw into. To sit there and try to fit a tab into a slot and then if the slot is slightly large you see the edge of the slot is not a good look. Why would you want to take it apart?? if you ship it in 2 pieces and the wood swells and does not fit you have a problem from the customer. One other thing. I never glue my piece to the base for two reasons. One is movement because of different grain direction and if I need to replace the piece because of breakage I can still reuse the base.

Same here Bill. Have 4 saws so have 4 of them somewhere taking up valuable real estate.

You all realize you paid for that piece when you bought your saw

Now Kevin you used terms in here that are not allowed any more in today's society . You can be called out by the politically correct police. We must not harm in any way anyone's feelings. People are very sensitive these days. A whole new world. But you are probably right. Many examples of this all around us. I'm guessing but, I bet they are required to have it on there when sold new.. Probably some idiot scratched their finger or the wood started bouncing and pinched their finger.. and thus.. a safety device was invented and required to be on any new machine.. Now.. to me it's more of a safety hazard on there than off.. but that's just me... gotta remember.. they have some real dumb people in this world.. since they now have to mark coffee cups with Caution Hot now days.. warning labels and caution signs all over the place these days.. Surprised they don't have a warning to not change the tire on a car while it's in motion, LOL

Maybe we could send them to a specific place and they can reuse them for new saws. They all are from reading here brand new. They keep recycling them they could skip making that piece.

I know this topic is wavering off course but if anyone watches This Old House, there is a push on the show to incorporate apprentices in the show. They make it a point to show and mention there is a shortage of skilled labor in the market these days. Yes computer skills are great but still need those hands on people that can build and fix things. Again the fast pace world we have become people do not want to take time to learn simple skills. Just pick a phone up and they call someone.

How many here use the hold down foot supplied with the saw when new?? How many have taken it off all together??? How many still have it on but do not use it and use it to hold up an air hose or something else???

I would put that idea in the same category as the hold down foot that comes with each scrollsaw. There should be a site where you could send those things to recycle them. They are the first thing that comes off. There is a blade tension device for bandsaw blades on the market but again experience puts them to bed too.

Now that you cleared that up. I have the rigid sander and only have it because another tool I got a great deal on. I never used the spindle end of it but have used the belt a couple times. My spindle sander is a true spindle sander that I have used many times and works well. It has a small footprint and I have on a cabinet I built for it .http://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=4298D00024DD56DE251B588442F7EA74E21309BF&thid=OIP.UCckkG59NYfW9DxYVdn7QwAAAA&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F81PE1T69ZRL._SX300_.gif&exph=281&expw=300&q=clayton+oscillating+spindle+sander&selectedindex=0&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,2,3,6

Again where is everyone getting the information he is asking about a spindle sander?? I am missing it. Most palm sanders fit into two basic categories: the oscillating sander and the random orbit sander. Oscillating sanders move the sanding pad in tiny little circles, which is more effective than the back-and-forth motion of older models. A random orbit sander oscillates and spins the pad, resulting in faster work that leaves fewer fine, circular scratch marks than an oscillating unit.

Rolf everyone has their preferences when it comes to what materials they like to work with for whatever reasons they choose. But what I am pointing out is there are ways around finishing woods if that is one of the reasons. Now you mentioned humidity change cause a disaster. what to say the same thing would not happen with another wood species?? Can not force someone to like the looks of wood grain and if people choose to not wear safety equipment when working in the shop, can't fix stupid as they say. But you are correct everyone's tastes are different. I was just jabbing Kevin in a friendly manner. I mean nothing by it. His work is outstanding.

Not easy with that type script for sure. Good job and good choice in woods.

There are clones so depending on the part I am sure you can find a replacement.

Are you talking palm sander or something else?

Well Kevin why did you make the cross in oak in the first place?? You mentioned all good reasons to not even show oak on your sites. Do not even offer it. You can get in a position like you are now with cutting oak unless you are making all those crosses out of cherry. You do know you can seal any wood with shellac and then top coat with a poly or lacquer and be done in one day with finish and no smell. Just being contradictory because I am an oak fan. I do like cherry as well and would finish the same way.