making a craft booth a safe possibility -please add to this, it may help quite a few of us .

[Puzzleguy]

I have a few other posts -about shows and online sales questions - but this is an important topic in it self !

Hypothetical - not sure any shows will be up and running but what it ?

so here it goes : making your booth a inviting , safe place to buy and sell ones art :

Thinking maybe put plastic around my cashout stand -with a window ( thou this sounds strange )

wearing gloves to handle credit cards and customers sales ( how will the buyer feel about me dressed up like i work in a covid ward at a hospital )

closing the booth for 10-15 minutes every 3-4 hours to restock and do some disenfecting -

another though is how safe will my customer be -the safer they are the more likely they will be to buy - yes / no

Im also willing to guess - not to many people will visit shows or buy anothing -Ill probably just be

a demonstrating not selling anything showman - with people telling me they will go on line to buy their crafts 

( and im not their - thou im working on it )

 

please add your own thoughts about making it work - make it a what if senario ---

Edited May 18, 2020 by Puzzleguy

[JimErn]

Well color me jaded to some extent, but I figure if and when shows do open up, I will wear a mask, and maybe gloves, but at least I will have them handy

I figure if people are willing to come out, they are also willing to take their chances.

[kmmcrafts]

Well, I'll chime in on the mask and gloves thoughts.. Since my parents worked healthcare and my wife is a RN and worked in the ICU for 27 years with infectious patients etc.. We talk a lot about the people wearing gloves and mask when we are out and about and how just setting in a parking lot and watch the people come out of the stores etc. and many making some very dumb mistakes that could hinder their efforts in staying safe.. many would be much safer without the gloves and mask..

Gloves are worn in a hospital setting to protect the caregiver AND the patient.. and a caregiver changes to new gloves for each patient.. and sometimes will change during the same patient.. depending on the procedures being done.. SO... wearing gloves isn't going to protect you from spreading the virus from person to person when handling their cards or cash if you wearing the same gloves all day long.... I don't think you want to use a new pair of gloves each transaction either as that could get costly.. sanitizer is cheaper and offer it to customers as well after they've made contact with your items on the table..also you should wash after making transactions etc.. I've watched people in stores wearing gloves.. touching this can of soup.. then the next can etc etc.. they just transferred germs from one can to the next can .. then they fiddle with their face mask because it's falling down or whatever.. now you just touched your face.. How is that protection? You can't get the virus through your hands.. or gloves unless you get it on your hands or gloves then rub your eye / face/ mouth etc.. so gloves are no protection if you're touching everything with them anyway.. washing hands often is more protection than any gloves will be.. people forget they touch their phones etc with possible contamination etc.. then forget and take their gloves off without washing their phone.. they somehow think that is safe because they had gloves on? Gloves don't kill the virus.. sanitizer or soap and water does.. 

As for mask.. the mask might be a little protection for yourself but it's more geared to be protection for others.. in my area we are coming into allergy season.. IF you accidentally sneeze / cough your mask catches much of the spray.. or those that tend to spray while talking.. I seen a thing online the other day.. I found it kind of comical but also it's true and make sense.. 

If you pull your pants down to try to pee on someone you'll spray them good with a stream of pee ( ie no mask )... but if try while having underwear on you will slow the stream of pee and much of it will be soaked into the underwear. (ie cheap cloth mask )... Now you try with your pants and underwear on and very little pee is going to escape.. most would be soaked into your underwear and pants.. both you and the other person wearing cheap cloth mask or  N95 mask etc.. 

Sorry for the pee example.. that's what I seen online and is pretty simple for everyone to sort of understand.. 

But as I said.. the mask is going to put you more at risk if you're all the time having to touch / adjust it.. UNLESS you wash before touching it each time.. Your hands are the biggest spreaders of the virus.. you touch things without really thinking about it.. because it's natural.. you be surprised at how much stuff you touch within 10 -15 minutes.. they say on average a person touches their face without realizing it about 20 times an hour.. 

 

SO.. that all said. I'd be more apt to have a big jug of sanitizer than anything else for both you and your customers to use.. and use it often.. especially after each transaction..

[amazingkevin]

5 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Well, I'll chime in on the mask and gloves thoughts.. Since my parents worked healthcare and my wife is a RN and worked in the ICU for 27 years with infectious patients etc.. We talk a lot about the people wearing gloves and mask when we are out and about and how just setting in a parking lot and watch the people come out of the stores etc. and many making some very dumb mistakes that could hinder their efforts in staying safe.. many would be much safer without the gloves and mask..

Gloves are worn in a hospital setting to protect the caregiver AND the patient.. and a caregiver changes to new gloves for each patient.. and sometimes will change during the same patient.. depending on the procedures being done.. SO... wearing gloves isn't going to protect you from spreading the virus from person to person when handling their cards or cash if you wearing the same gloves all day long.... I don't think you want to use a new pair of gloves each transaction either as that could get costly.. sanitizer is cheaper and offer it to customers as well after they've made contact with your items on the table..also you should wash after making transactions etc.. I've watched people in stores wearing gloves.. touching this can of soup.. then the next can etc etc.. they just transferred germs from one can to the next can .. then they fiddle with their face mask because it's falling down or whatever.. now you just touched your face.. How is that protection? You can't get the virus through your hands.. or gloves unless you get it on your hands or gloves then rub your eye / face/ mouth etc.. so gloves are no protection if you're touching everything with them anyway.. washing hands often is more protection than any gloves will be.. people forget they touch their phones etc with possible contamination etc.. then forget and take their gloves off without washing their phone.. they somehow think that is safe because they had gloves on? Gloves don't kill the virus.. sanitizer or soap and water does.. 

As for mask.. the mask might be a little protection for yourself but it's more geared to be protection for others.. in my area we are coming into allergy season.. IF you accidentally sneeze / cough your mask catches much of the spray.. or those that tend to spray while talking.. I seen a thing online the other day.. I found it kind of comical but also it's true and make sense.. 

If you pull your pants down to try to pee on someone you'll spray them good with a stream of pee ( ie no mask )... but if try while having underwear on you will slow the stream of pee and much of it will be soaked into the underwear. (ie cheap cloth mask )... Now you try with your pants and underwear on and very little pee is going to escape.. most would be soaked into your underwear and pants.. both you and the other person wearing cheap cloth mask or  N95 mask etc.. 

Sorry for the pee example.. that's what I seen online and is pretty simple for everyone to sort of understand.. 

But as I said.. the mask is going to put you more at risk if you're all the time having to touch / adjust it.. UNLESS you wash before touching it each time.. Your hands are the biggest spreaders of the virus.. you touch things without really thinking about it.. because it's natural.. you be surprised at how much stuff you touch within 10 -15 minutes.. they say on average a person touches their face without realizing it about 20 times an hour.. 

 

SO.. that all said. I'd be more apt to have a big jug of sanitizer than anything else for both you and your customers to use.. and use it often.. especially after each transaction..

Very good Kevin, I understood that very good!!!

[Dennisfm56]

What Kevin said.

[Roberta Moreton]

When I go out I don’t wear gloves. I do wear a mask and expect others to. I want to be protected. I do not want to be around others that don’t wear a mask. Their mask protects me. Many don’t have symptoms and I am on the endangered species list. (Old)

[barb.j.enders]

Kevin,  Thanks for being a sane voice in all this insanity!.  I also don't wear gloves.  To me it is a false sense of security.  Along the line of your analogy of peeing - I saw a cartoon where the gentleman wore his mask just under his nose.  The tag line showed a line drawing of a penis sticking out from the underwear, saying - is this effective (or something similar)!  First time I was out after seeing that cartoon, I saw an older gentleman wearing his mask under his nose - couldn't not see the cartoon - laughed (to myself)!!

[kmmcrafts]

52 minutes ago, barb.j.enders said:

Kevin,  Thanks for being a sane voice in all this insanity!.  I also don't wear gloves.  To me it is a false sense of security.  Along the line of your analogy of peeing - I saw a cartoon where the gentleman wore his mask just under his nose.  The tag line showed a line drawing of a penis sticking out from the underwear, saying - is this effective (or something similar)!  First time I was out after seeing that cartoon, I saw an older gentleman wearing his mask under his nose - couldn't not see the cartoon - laughed (to myself)!!

 

I seen the same cartoon thing on FB.. and yes.. same thing happen to my wife and I at the store yesterday.. of coarse I had to quietly comment to the wife about it..

[ike]

 I don't go out much but I see a lot of people wearing there mask under their nose, even the manager of Krogers I would personally write the employ up for it.

IKE

[Puzzleguy]

Well help in general isn't very good ( not from here - but no one really seems to know how to do this in general )

even the schools - seems theirs no help or guidance from the federal government -their clueless .

I visited a couple of farmers markets - they have a site for guidance  ---they put tables in front of their goods -to keep hands off

and you have to ask to see something -they hand them to you in plastic bags - 

they use squares for charges .( everything is contactless )  For cash money -the customer puts it in a plastic  jar - or box ( you dont touch it for 3-4 days when you get home )

and you give then clean change thats been sitting for their safety from the bank . recently coinage is being hoarded -so were going to make our prices even dollars

going to try clear shower curtains to get our work closer to the buyer -plus were simplifying our set up and going over board for our safety.

Farmers markets demand liability insurance - act is about 250-260 a year -the cheapest so far - 

( We do have liability insurance but they demand more ) theirs more to this that this-- will try to keep you updated to help you

from time to time -

 

 

[Puzzleguy]

Have noticed that ezup canopys have a clear screen you can buy -going to make my own using a couple of shower curtains

and 2" notebook rings ( for the cross poles at the top of our show off canopy ) think we have this though out pretty good -

even the elimination of coinage for change . Think its odd about the coin hording - for what purpose im not sure

 - any help i can offer I will for other artists .

We have a couple of shows that say they will run reguard less -so my goal is to keep myself and any or all artists within my reach as well -.

I'm even starting a small stash of stuff like duct tape , plastic etc - the advice from many vender's at those farmers markets has been very good -

I'm not sure what next year is going to bring - nobody does - but my goal is to be on top of it -and seek better ways of doing things .

and stay healthy !

 

Edited August 17, 2020 by Puzzleguy

[Fred Buehler]

Good info. Kevin.

 

[Puzzleguy]

People are really itching to go to shows , weve gotten

a few invites to pop up shows -where masks and social distancing

are respected ( not getting into the politics )

we did a couple this summer with one Christmas event were considering

with someone we know well and respect - ( thy run a show that was cancelled earlier this year )

Edited October 30, 2020 by Puzzleguy

[new2woodwrk]

We have done 2 events now this year, with more coming every other week or so.

We have sanitizer on our table however MOST people do not touch our products. The ones that do are usually children or adults that actually purchase.

We don't wear masks, and most of the people don't wear masks either. The ones that do are usually seniors, but even those are becoming less and less.

The problem many people have is the conflicting information: Masks are safe, masks are not safe, no need to wear a mask out side, wear a mask outside, wear a mask when eating on and on.

We are in Florida and the entire state is open for business. I guess for the most part the attitude is we are going to live our lives and not be ruled into false security.

I have no background in the medical industry, and I do watch the news daily - sometimes all day.

We understand this virus is deadly, but if the so called experts don't know or are in agreement then which suggestions are we to follow?

I saw an older gentleman the other day with a mask and t-shirt that said "We Trust in Faucci!"

He stopped by our display and I had to ask... "Which recommendation of his do you trust?" and the reply was... "It's just a t-shirt" LOL

[teachnlearn]

If you decide to put a tent up and add plastic and any walls, weight the tent legs. With wind hitting any closed side, you maybe chasing a rolling tent. RJF