Pegas VS Flying Dutchman

[Tbow388]

I have been trying some new blades and trying to figure out which brand to stick with for my new saw. (Pegas 21)

I cut a lot of bowls from 3/4 stock.

I cut a lot of portraits with 1/2" hardwood or 3/4 softwoods.

I have always used Olson blades but decided to try some better ones.

Any answers would be appreciated.

[Roberta Moreton]

I mainly use Flying Dutchman blades. I have recently tried Pegas again and I find I like them. It depends on the project. 

[Scrappile]

Personal preference, Try several of each brand and see what fits you best.

Edited February 27, 2023 by Scrappile

[Tbow388]

I guess all in all, is there really much difference between the two as in quality? I do know that they are both better than the Olson blades I was using.

[Sycamore67]

I use the Flying Dutchman Polar for most hardwoods.  I have tried the Pegas and no complaints.

I recommend that you pick one and use just it.  You will get familiar and comfortable with how it cuts.

[OCtoolguy]

I'm no expert by any means but after trying the Pegas #5 mgt, I have decided it's my go-to blade. And I do mostly basket, boxes and bowls. 3D stuff too. 

 

[Gonzo]

I prefer Pegas over Flying Dutchman. My go to is also Pegas mgt #5, followed by Pegas super skip #5, which I use strictly on compound cuts. 

[kmmcrafts]

I use both but that is dependant on what saw I'm using and the project at hand.. That being said, my main go to blade is Pegas MGT either #3 or #5 again depending on project at hand.. I could do without the FD blades all together but once in a while I will use them for that odd project on stubborn wood.. For me the Pegas last longer and cut straighter as the FD you have to cut a couple degrees to the one side since they are a stamped rather than ground teeth.

[scrollingforsanity]

I prefer Pegas over Flying Dutchman, but that is a personal preference. I used Flying Dutchman for years but I find the Pegas to be much sharper in my opinion. I use Pegas MGT #3 and #5 depending on the project.  I also keep some MGT #1 hand for cutting fine areas. As Scrapile said, try a few different ones and then decide.   Good luck.

[scrollingforsanity]

21 minutes ago, Gonzo said:

I prefer Pegas over Flying Dutchman. My go to is also Pegas mgt #5, followed by Pegas super skip #5, which I use strictly on compound cuts. 

I have been doing quite a few compound cuts but have not tried the Pegas super skip. Does it work better than the MGT? With the MGT sometimes I get good results and sometimes I don't.

[OCtoolguy]

50 minutes ago, scrollingforsanity said:

I have been doing quite a few compound cuts but have not tried the Pegas super skip. Does it work better than the MGT? With the MGT sometimes I get good results and sometimes I don't.

I tried the super skips but didn't like them so went bank to my standby #5mgt.

Edited February 28, 2023 by OCtoolguy

[preprius]

Answer straight blades :  Pegas MGT. 

Spirals : I don't have strong opinion but size 4 is a bit big.  I do order pegas anyway.  I have Flying dutchman new spirals, olsons, and pegas.

 

Notes opinions...

I bought Flying dutchman silver series a 2 years ago.  I feel they don't stay sharp very long.  Ok about 10 min when cutting black walnut 3/4 ". 

When I find a blade (any brand) that does not cut the same in left or right I throw it out within 5 minutes of trying to adapt. 

I feel the silver series seemed inconsistent between blades.  One blade might need to be held at 7 deg to cut a straight line. The next one was 15 deg.  Some was opposite angle. I still have over 200 of these.  

okay after trying Olson, and Flying dutchman, I read many threads like this 2 years ago and tried Pegas. Sample size at first. Now MGT seems to be my blades of choice. The main answer of the threads was try each brand and see which brand seems to fit you.

After buying silver series in grosses, I found another answer is don't get lower quality. The blades are cheap enough when bought in gross. That is precision ground, MGT or Polar the higher tiers.

Flying dutchman has an AC7 "aluminum cutter" that was really impressive. I grab that for any metal cutting.

I had a pegas, one package of 12, that half of them dulled very fast 20 mins. Most blades last about 40 min to an hour. I have not had another package like that. They also had inconsistent angle cutting.

45 deg cuts: try not to use any reverse blades.  I re-learn this every time I reach for MGT.

Me.

Mark Eason

Edited February 28, 2023 by preprius
added 45 deg note.

[Gonzo]

8 hours ago, scrollingforsanity said:

I have been doing quite a few compound cuts but have not tried the Pegas super skip. Does it work better than the MGT? With the MGT sometimes I get good results and sometimes I 

I did an experiment last week using both blades. I made two pawns for a chess set, both out of birch. 1 /14” square. I used the #5 mgt on one piece and it worked fine until I got into tight corners. I’ve always had that problem with tight corners. Maybe because it’s too aggressive of a blade.

I used the super skip #5 on the other. and it definitely cut slower but with much more control, especially in the tight corners. As for chip/dust clearance, I couldn’t tell any difference. 

One thing I don’t like like about the super skip is the tear out on the back side, although that shouldn’t  matter on compound cutting. Whereas, with the mgt there is no tear out. 

i started out using Flying Dutchman blades. Someone turned me on to Pegas and since then that is the only blade I use. 
Straighter cuts, less, tear out, less chatter, and longer life. Again, that’s just my opinion. 
 

[Bill WIlson]

There are so many variables at play when it comes to blade selection, that making a definitive recommendation is difficult.  I started out using Olson and largely switched to FDUR's a few years ago.  A friend gave me some Pegas blades to try out.  They're fine, but I didn't notice enough of a significant difference that I'm ready to ditch my FD's and go over to Pegas....yet.  I reserve the right to change my mind at any moment.  

So, best advice is to try a few from each brand.  You already know how to determine what size and type to use, so if you are just looking at brand comparison, the only real way is to compare them yourself.  

[Scrappile]

Personal preference, Try sever of each brand and see what fits you best.  And @Gonzo you have every right to change you mind or you can do like I do and have both and switch back and forth between the two.  I have a pretty big selection of both Pegas and FD blades all #5 and under.  This includes spiral of both brands.

[Denny Knappen]

As said, personal preference.  As a seller for Pegas, I use Pegas and my go to for most projects is the MGT blades.  With that said. I used FD blades for years with great results.

[scrollingforsanity]

4 hours ago, Gonzo said:

I did an experiment last week using both blades. I made two pawns for a chess set, both out of birch. 1 /14” square. I used the #5 mgt on one piece and it worked fine until I got into tight corners. I’ve always had that problem with tight corners. Maybe because it’s too aggressive of a blade.

I used the super skip #5 on the other. and it definitely cut slower but with much more control, especially in the tight corners. As for chip/dust clearance, I couldn’t tell any difference. 

One thing I don’t like like about the super skip is the tear out on the back side, although that shouldn’t  matter on compound cutting. Whereas, with the mgt there is no tear out. 

i started out using Flying Dutchman blades. Someone turned me on to Pegas and since then that is the only blade I use. 
Straighter cuts, less, tear out, less chatter, and longer life. Again, that’s just my opinion. 
 

Thank you for your input. I have the same problem you have with the Pegas MGT #5. Cuts great until I get to the tight turns then I sometimes have problems. I will get a few of the super skip blades next time order and give them a try. I believe some of my problem is I am cutting ripped down 2x4 and sometimes the grain makes for poor cutting.

[scrollingforsanity]

12 hours ago, OCtoolguy said:

I tried the super skips but didn't like them so went bank to my standby #5mgt.

Hey Thanks for the input Ray. I really like the MGT #5. I think part of my issue is I am cutting ripped down 2x4 for my compound cuts and some have a very aggressive grain and makes it hard for any blade to cut.

[OCtoolguy]

19 minutes ago, scrollingforsanity said:

Hey Thanks for the input Ray. I really like the MGT #5. I think part of my issue is I am cutting ripped down 2x4 for my compound cuts and some have a very aggressive grain and makes it hard for any blade to cut.

I had the same experience with 2x stock so I stopped using it. 

[Dak0ta52]

When I first started scrolling I used Flying Dutchman. I next ordered Pegas and haven't tried another brand. I'm totally happy using the Pegas blades and typically use spiral or MGT depending on the project. If I'm cutting something and have an area that is critical, I'll switch to the skip tooth because it cuts a little slower and seems to have better control than the MGT. Typically I use a smaller blade than what is recommended for the thickness and type of wood you are cutting. Most of my projects are double stack 1/4" ply material and on rare occasions 3/4" material. Usually the 3/4" material is pine because it's so hard for me to find anything other in my area.

[scrollingforsanity]

9 hours ago, OCtoolguy said:

I had the same experience with 2x stock so I stopped using it. 

What wood are you using now Ray. With the price of wood I am trying to be inexpensive.

[Gonzo]

10 hours ago, Scrappile said:

Personal preference, Try sever of each brand and see what fits you best.  And @Gonzo you have every right to change you mind or you can do like I do and have both and switch back and forth between the two.  I have a pretty big selection of both Pegas and FD blades all #5 and under.  This includes spiral of both brands.

You mean I can change my mind? (Big big smile)  I do admit though, I do get stuck in my ways. I have dozens of FD blades, so what the hell, I’ll give em another try. Might as well use them up. As for spirals…..

[Scrappile]

26 minutes ago, Gonzo said:

You mean I can change my mind? (Big big smile)  I do admit though, I do get stuck in my ways. I have dozens of FD blades, so what the hell, I’ll give em another try. Might as well use them up. As for spirals…..

What I keep close to my saw. These are all Pegas and FD, flat and spiral blades.  I have more else where.  These are what I use most!

 

[OCtoolguy]

2 hours ago, scrollingforsanity said:

What wood are you using now Ray. With the price of wood I am trying to be inexpensive.

It really depends on the project. I bought some 2x basswood from Ocooch for 3d stuff.

[kmmcrafts]

What sort of struggle on the turns do you guys have? Funny how everyone has a different style cutting etc.. I struggle on turns with the FD-UR blades and when cutting cherry sometimes I'll get scorched edges on sharp turns with them.. after many years of scrolling I got it figured out that I was pushing through the corners a bit too hard or needed more speed on the saw.. Turned out I needed more saw speed, you'd think making the saw speed faster would burn more but the burning was due to pushing through to fast..