PEGAS issues

[kmmcrafts]

17 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

https://pegas-scroll-saw.com/#

 

It is amazing I can not click on the reviews. Now they claim Swiss engerneering. Any Swiss watch I had worked liked it should when bought. It is one thing when a saw gets older and things start to break down and you need to repair or tinker with but to have to do this stuff with the arms and the vibration just does not make sense to me. I love my RBI saws. Set up and scroll the very first day. Even my Hegner. Now the Dewalt that uses that same type linkage was a set up and scroll. Back in the day when they came out of Canada the biggest problem was the table needed some adjutment but that was scrollers preference. That was a $500 saw. 

I'm not bashing any body's favorite brand saw but it has always made me wonder why a company would get enough returns on a saw to be able to offer "Refurbished" at a cheaper price. https://www.bearwood.com/product8582.html?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20528065358&gbraid=0AAAAADgW79BzjoAVifjkwzD1y4Jcdj4sW&gclid=CjwKCAiA_orJBhBNEiwABkdmjFCIrvFVjvoJuvzLqAkvuo13srOKkaytLPy_hfzqaXLHAEP8yFNesxoCkM4QAvD_BwE#8582

This somewhat throws a red flag to me.. Pegas came out strong with a lot of good reviews and good advertisement.. mostly from one of the guys that worked for the magazine site company and he later got a job with Grobet or whatever the name of the Pegas parent company is.. Lets just say.. I've never seen brand new refurb Hawks or Hegners out there offered from the companies.. Now they do refurb "older" saws and offer them from time to time. You have to consider they are selling these very close to the price of the Hawk / Hegners now days.. They used to be considerably less.. Supply and demand raised the price.. Prices of other like models have not gone up so much like the Pegas did.. I could see it if they were ready to go out of the box but we aren't seeing that with every one of them. 

Not to be negative about so many peoples favorite saw brand but to me they're just a overpriced Excalibur or Grizzly saw.. The grizzly saw is a good 200+ cheaper and basically the same saw in my opinion.. actually it has a couple features that in my opinion improve the design. However IF I were not mechanically inclined and wanted good customer service I would look at the Jet saw and swap out the clamps to the Pegas.. Jet from what I've seen and heard has wonderful customer service.. it's a big company and not some small independent dealer that might go out of business at anytime leaving you to find another small independent dealer to get parts and service etc. 

Again, I see Pegas saws as good saws but I also see enough iffy situations and refurbs offered that it send me a red flag.. There are tons of positive reviews from users etc.. and obviously more than bad reviews.. Maybe they need to look at their quality control because it is a great saw.. I just don't see the high dollar price of a saw that is said to be a premium brand.. seems like the quality control is slipping on their job and or they know about issues but whoever over sees QC is overriding the issues they bring up and sending them out anyway.. I've noticed this a lot since Covid with almost every business. 

This is basically the same saw made in the same facility as the Pegas.. The blade chucks are different but the main workings of the saw is the same thing..

 https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-21-variable-speed-scroll-saw-with-foot-pedal/g0969?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22439918094&gbraid=0AAAAAC0Fba1_p7kK3pecR2zRH-pJvjH1X&gclid=CjwKCAiA_orJBhBNEiwABkdmjB0Vwa2-9-jqBAmqETUdP26Jt_Qz8CCS06PXFV9tZs73hbAT4i9PVhoCD7EQAvD_BwE

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

Wow Kevin I have never seen that either. A refurbished saw and they are selling close to the original price. As mentioned there are quite afew of this design saws out there. Seems that is the go to design these days. I just do not get for the price of that saw they should be unbox and start using ready. I am sorry but just my thoughts. I have heard good things from people here about that saw. I believe that Harbor Freight saw falls in the same catagory. If that be the case then $280 is even better than Grizzly. Excaliber same catagory. Dewalt is a good midrange saw. I put this Pegas saw in the midrange saws. 

[ScrollingJoker]

Received an email from the tech today, nothing productive. If I get some meaningful/helpful instruction tomorrow and it works properly I may keep it. If not then I’m willing to try a third Pegas saw but after that it’s a refund and on to another brand ….. I’ll start taking recommendations incase I need to go that route, only interested in 20" range saws 

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

1 hour ago, ScrollingJoker said:

Received an email from the tech today, nothing productive. If I get some meaningful/helpful instruction tomorrow and it works properly I may keep it. If not then I’m willing to try a third Pegas saw but after that it’s a refund and on to another brand ….. I’ll start taking recommendations incase I need to go that route, only interested in 20" range saws 

Good luck. Could you share where you got the saw? Yes keep us in the loop as to progress. I would ask them a question if they set the saws up and test, before they send them out? Curious to hear his answer.

[rjweb]

Hegner has a 18" but they are out of stock till mid January, but there again you would have a fine machine, RJ

[OLScroler]

Here is some information that may be useful.

I was not able to copy the link on the ol’ iPad so do aserch on the following.

Tuning Your Excelsior Or Excalibur Scroll Saw

Excalibur & Related Scroll Saws

Sheila Landry
 

 

 

[OLScroler]

Always thought of getting a Hegner does anyone have a preferred dealer for Hegner?

[ScrollingJoker]

11 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

Good luck. Could you share where you got the saw? Yes keep us in the loop as to progress. I would ask them a question if they set the saws up and test, before they send them out? Curious to hear his answer.

I’m fine sharing where I purchased after I get this resolved. My understanding is that they all ship from Grobet so they handle all the warranty claims as they did my first one. Already sent email to tech requesting a call today and I will most definitely post an update later today and I plan on asking some questions as well 

[ScrollingJoker]

15 minutes ago, OLScroler said:

Here is some information that may be useful.

I was not able to copy the link on the ol’ iPad so do aserch on the following.

Tuning Your Excelsior Or Excalibur Scroll Saw

Excalibur & Related Scroll Saws

Sheila Landry
 

 

 

Thanks, I will look them up 

[kmmcrafts]

4 hours ago, OLScroler said:

Always thought of getting a Hegner does anyone have a preferred dealer for Hegner?

I'm not on the up and up for Hegner but I think this is the only dealer in the US...

 https://www.advmachinery.com/collections/hegner-scroll-saws?srsltid=AfmBOor9iuzBmlGPO8J7cRth5iAUMWd_R83ONWx8-ig7MBl_8aeZsPB2

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said:

I'm not on the up and up for Hegner but I think this is the only dealer in the US...

 https://www.advmachinery.com/collections/hegner-scroll-saws?srsltid=AfmBOor9iuzBmlGPO8J7cRth5iAUMWd_R83ONWx8-ig7MBl_8aeZsPB2

Man the price of those saws went up big $$$$

[BadBob]

22 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

I believe that Harbor Freight saw falls in the same catagory. If that be the case then $280 is even better than Grizzly.

I was thinking the same thing.

[dgman]

10 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

Man the price of those saws went up big $$$$

Tariffs

[rjweb]

Kevin, you are correct only one place you can get hegner saws at is advance machinery, RJ

[kmmcrafts]

3 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

Man the price of those saws went up big $$$$

 

3 hours ago, BadBob said:

I was thinking the same thing.

They have all went up.. maybe tariffs but everything went up about 2-3 years ago.. Hawk raised the price of the saw by $200 or 300 I don't remember now but I know the 20 inch saw is now what the 26 inch was and now I think the 26" is around $1700 - 1800 plus like $150 - 200 shipping. I got mine back in 2017-18 with extras for just under $1700.. 

The Pegas used to be just shy of $800 when they first come out then they raised it to a little over 800 for a couple years and then around 2021 -22 they jumped to over a $1000 almost $1100.. and well over that if you want a stand etc..  

[ScrollingJoker]

Not much to update today, exchanged a few emails. They requested a video of the vibration. Will see what happens tomorrow.

[ScrollingJoker]

UPDATE….. after all this there was nothing wrong with my saw. The manual says to adjust the arm parallel to the table with no blade. This is incorrect, the arm is supposed to be parallel to the table with a blade inserted and tension on the arm. Apparently they haven’t made that change in the manual yet. Plus for some reason this saw doesn’t like sitting on my bench, had no problem with the other saw sitting on the bench I also put the motor back to the factory shipped setting and this saw runs as smooth as glass. Passed the double nickel test (I used 2 nickels) so yes the saw came set correctly from the factory and yes they are set and inspected at the factory. I learned a lot and looking back it seems so simple. Thanks to everyone for all the comments.

So now I need a recommendation on a high quality stand for the saw. 

 

[jerry walters]

3 minutes ago, ScrollingJoker said:

UPDATE….. after all this there was nothing wrong with my saw. The manual says to adjust the arm parallel to the table with no blade. This is incorrect, the arm is supposed to be parallel to the table with a blade inserted and tension on the arm. Apparently they haven’t made that change in the manual yet. Plus for some reason this saw doesn’t like sitting on my bench, had no problem with the other saw sitting on the bench I also put the motor back to the factory shipped setting and this saw runs as smooth as glass. Passed the double nickel test (I used 2 nickels) so yes the saw came set correctly from the factory and yes they are set and inspected at the factory. I learned a lot and looking back it seems so simple. Thanks to everyone for all the comments.

So now I need a recommendation on a high quality stand for the saw. 

 

When I ordered my Pegas I also ordered the stand.  I assume it is a Pegas stand.

Jerry

 

[ScrollingJoker]

I just looked at that stand, how do you like it. Is it heavy duty enough, not flimsy ?

[kmmcrafts]

I recommend the stand that is made for the saw.. That said, I've seen some real nice homebuilt stands with fancy drawer storage etc. too.. A lot of people like to have a slight angle so the saw is tilted forward some.. I have the factory stand and have the back legs higher than the front legs for a bit of an angle.. seems I don't have to hunch over so much then.. you may want to toy around with different angles etc to see what you like best. 

[ScrollingJoker]

6 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

I recommend the stand that is made for the saw.. That said, I've seen some real nice homebuilt stands with fancy drawer storage etc. too.. A lot of people like to have a slight angle so the saw is tilted forward some.. I have the factory stand and have the back legs higher than the front legs for a bit of an angle.. seems I don't have to hunch over so much then.. you may want to toy around with different angles etc to see what you like best. 

Thats 2 for the Pegas stand. May just go that route, possibly in the future I’ll build something with retractable wheels so I can roll it around then sit solid on the floor 

[rjweb]

I am glad it all worked out and your are on the way to make saw dust, RJ

[Scrappile]

Great to read it is solved.  I ran my excalibur in a stand I made from an old kitchen cabinet.  It was bolted to the stand but it worked great for me for several years.  The person the purchased the saw from me took the stand I made and as far as I know that is what he is using.  So, if it were me I would bolt it to the bench and see how it performs before sinking money into a stand.  For my Seyco, I did purchase the stand because the saw is integrated into it.  

Edited November 26, 2025 by Scrappile

[ScrollingJoker]

Good to hear. Bolting it to my bench only made it worse. I order the Pegas stand about an hour ago so hopefully it will be here early next week. I will probably bolt on retractable wheels so I can move it around 

[TAIrving]

13 hours ago, ScrollingJoker said:

 Plus for some reason this saw doesn’t like sitting on my bench, had no problem with the other saw sitting on the bench I also put the motor back to the factory shipped setting and this saw runs as smooth as glass. 

 

Try adjusting the feet to equalize the pressure on each of the feet.  That helped a good bit with mine.