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Like that dough bowl.. Great job on both, several years ago I did the Michigan version of the sign because a friend wanted one.. I stack cut three of them from 1/8 maple and put the Walnut backer.. sold only the one and still have the other two, LOL.. Feels good to get back into the shop after a long pause don't it..

You're right JT.. It's worth $500 but again.. that's to the right person.. I don't know where I put that it wasn't worth $500.. maybe I could have said it better or the written word was misinterpreted.. Maybe I need to go back to see what I actually said.. I thought I said $300 - 500 and if he just wants to get it out of his way then maybe $200 ish.. I've watched the marketplace for these for several years and I don't see them really moving very fast in the $400+ range.. If I bought every $200 Hawk I've seen in this condition I'd have a shop full of Hawks that I'd be setting on for several weeks just to get $250 - 400 back out of them.. they'd build up faster than I could sell them for. Here is a G4 which is the Cadillac of Hawks lineup.. not quite as clean looking but you don't see the G4's come up very often either.. This is well worth it to the right guy that knows these saws.. however there are tons and tons of Ultra saws like the original poster has and people that do not know these saws would just see a expensive used orange saw.. they all "look" the same.. and they see that they can get a scroll saw at Harbor Freight for $250 and get the extra warranty and get a free saw every two years if an issue arose. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/683232744287565/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A1371d8a1-fdde-4079-a1ad-b9218e8c9af2 For what it's worth the original poster put this saw up for sale 3 weeks ago for $400 and has already dropped the price to $350.. doesn't seem like he's wanting to set on it forever.. I have notifications set when a new Hawk is put on marketplace I get alerted about it. Like I've said.. I watch these pretty closely.. be interesting to see how long it takes to sell it and what he actually ends up getting for it. Many estates people just need to move stuff to empty out the house to sell the house.. I got my Hegner free because the guy had it listed for $75 and I drove an hour to look it over.. plugged it in and at ran but was missing the blade chucks.. he searched and couldn't find them.. had a dumpster out there with table saws and all sorts of stuff in it.. he said I could have it as he had 3 days to get the place cleaned out.. If I didn't take it he was going to put in the dumpster since it wasn't all there. I has some chucks here that I bought a box of blades from a different estate sale and in the bottom of the box was several Hegner clamps.. My point is.. most estates the family has no interest in the things they're selling and they don't usually want to bring it home to take up their space either.. so they try selling the stuff and hope to get "some money" but they also get tired of the hassle of selling the stuff too.. at some point he may just say screw it.. $200 and someone will walk away with a good deal.. as you say.. scroll sawing isn't what it used to be.. people have moved into laser and cnc stuff.. The economy is tough right now.. not many folks spending money on old saws.. they'd rather eat eggs for breakfast, LOL SO, as a seller if I had that saw yeah, I'd be happy with selling for $500.. BUT, turn the tables and as a buyer.. I'm not buying that saw for more than $300.. that's just me and the economy that I see right now. Why do I say that.. well I usually look for a deal that if I needed to sell I could get most my money back fairly easy.. There are tons of $300 saws like this out there.. Maybe a good place to try to sell for more money would be on the scroll saw FB groups.. specifically the Hawk one as those folks know the saws and if someone wanted a second saw or whatever there is Hawk interest there.. not so much here as many folks are looking for the cheap saws.. not the commercial ones high end ones.

That’s why I went with a DeWalt way back in the near beginning of my scroll sawing journey. Then I found a Hawk for $100 and then some deals on other saws so I bought a wide range of saws to try. lol. I bought the Dewalt new from Grizzly on holiday sale for $350 with stand and light. Sold light for $20 and run the saw production cutting for 6 years with one rebuild and needing it again soon but sold it for $250 instead because I had two Hawks and the Excalibur. I bought that new hawk in 2018 for $1700 ish and I’d be lucky if I could get $500 for it. People would rather spend $600 and get a new saw instead of a 5-10 year old saw that realistically would outlive the new one several times over. But they seem to think new with warranty is better. It takes the right person to know the value of the Hawk and Hegner to sell one and many of them that know them already have one. lol unfortunately they are just hard to sell at any real value unless you want to set on it for several months and wait for that right person to buy.

Yeah, kinda like where I'm at.. most any given time I can go to marketplace and there will be 12+ of these for sale in the $250 - 600 price range and those in the $300+ are setting there for sale for months.. These are only worth what someone is willing to pay.. which is why I suggest a bit lower value than some might think. It might be worth $600 to someone but price it at that and wait 6 months for that someone, or price it to move it.. Hegners are another example of this.. You pay big money for a new one.. but try selling it 2 months after you buy it and you're lucky to get $600 from it unless you wait for that special buyer that just knows it's a good deal..

Guess I was way off.. my serial number is 10290 receipt shows it was ordered Dec. 1998 but wasn't delivered until Feb. 1999. Location plays a huge roll in the value as is one's opinion of a good deal vrs. another.. Many folks see these older used saws and think they'd rather spend $300 - 600 on a brand new saw that has a warranty.. I see many of these in my area in great condition for $350 - 500 and many times they're on there for several months before someone snags it up. Then you have the folks that know these saws saying they're easily worth $500 - 700 but then they already have one and know what they are, LOL and nobody is really buying them very often for more than $350 - 450 so that is why I place my value lower than one would expect me to.. I put up one in this condition and also placed it on many FB groups for $450 and I lowered all the way down to $300.. then took it offline.. someone here was looking for a saw and I spoke up about mine and just basically wanted to move it out of my shop so I sold to him for $250 if I remember right.. that was probably 5 years ago. As you know I put hour meters on my saws.. My 226VS Ultra that was new in sealed box when I got it only has 100 hours on the meter.. and to be honest I'd sell in a heartbeat at $400 - 450.. even though I really feel it's worth more like $600 - 800 for the condition.. even my new saw I'd be happy to get $400 - 500 out of.. but it does have 500 hours on it.. and I am going to be selling both of these hopefully soon.. just in case anyone is interested. LOL

I wonder if they offered the flex hose as an optional add-on from rbi, because I bought my saw new still in the sealed box in 2017 for $400. The receipt in the box shows it was ordered late Dec. 1998. There was a bunch of added things in the box as in blades, books, 10 extra blade holders, etc. I’d have to see if I can find the original paperwork to see if that was an added cost. It was quite hard to read as it was one of those carbon copy receipts and I’ve never showed it as it had all the credit card and name info on it so out of respect I’ve never really bragged on showing that side of my deal lol. I don’t know my serial number off the top of my head but I think it’s 32**. I’ll try to remember to look when I’m in the shop later.

Based on the lack of a flex air hose tells me it's a earlier saw.. I don't know when they switched to a flex hose but my late year 1998 saw had the flex hose.. Hard to see for sure if it has the square blade holders or the round ones.. serial number is quite low so I'd guess this is around a 1995 ish. If square blade clamps then I'd say worth around $400.. if the round ones.. not worth very much.. maybe $200.. The issue with these saws is.. they're hard to sell a old saw for much money even though new they run over $1500.. I see a lot of them take forever to sell for $400.. if you just want to get it out of your way you may want to put a low $100 - 250 price on it.. maybe try $400 for a few weeks to see what happens.

I don't have a router or router table, but I do have a chainsaw which does pretty much the same thing if you know how to use it. I like my table so my arms are right close to the 90 degree mark.. I think that adjustable table could be very handy.. don't know how much they cost but there are some tools I like to use at a higher or lower height. Like routing with my chainsaw the bench needs to be lower..

Looks great Jerry! I have also done this but when there is a sharp corner in a line or it intersects another line I drill at those points as it hides better. See circled in green for reference of what I'm talking about.

I like to be that oddball but this time I have to say mine is set up flush as well.. so that means I need to adjust it.

I pretty much have always used both.. really depends on the project.. much like you say.. sometimes both on the same project.. I don't see a lot of people using them on thick wood either.. usually portrait type cuttings in thin stock. I also sometimes will use them after I've used a flat blade, such as for widening out veining tye cuts.. The spiral will usually follow the cut line perfectly once you've already cut a line with a flat blade.. Most of the body lines in my car clocks I make are done with a spiral this way.

Yeah, I have several places online to buy it.. I mentioned I haven't found it "locally" .. I don't get to Hobby lobby very often and when there I've never seen it.. maybe I've not looked in the right spot.. possibly the small Hobby Lobby we have local doesn't have it? I know my local one is a small store compared to the others in the bigger cities.. My local store would almost fit inside the one in the bigger town.. Same thing with Walmart.. the craft section is like one isle while the on in the bigger city has like 3-4 rows with lots of craft paints etc.. almost one whole row is paints.. while my local one has a small section about the size of a end cap that is all the paints they have, LOL

Acrylic mirrors yes, I suppose with the water drip system and the right blade you could do these glass mirrors. I wanted acrylic but Lowe's didn't have any that I could find so I went with these mirror glass tiles.. With acrylic the laser will cut to shapes or sizes that I want.. I haven't found anyplace local that sells any type of acrylic.. and I'm not certain what plexiglass is made from.. certain types of plastics and vinyl are very toxic to engrave / cut etc on a laser and in some cases can ruin a laser machine..

I can't take credit for the mirror engraving or the lights behind it... It's something I seen on a laser engraving youtube channel that I watch. The design I engraved is of a ornament scroll saw pattern that someone named Dean made the pattern. I saved it a few years ago to make for her back then but never did.. then I modified the design to work on the laser.. IF you take a stab at engraving mirrors you have to engrave the back side of the mirror and since it's on the back side you need to mirror the image in inkscape or whatever program you use so when you look at the front everything is the way it should be.. If you forget that step it'll be backwards on the front,

Local Walmart or online? They sell about anything online and these days it's hard to tell on the website if it's something in stock or sold by a third party seller, LOL..

I know I've seen a couple topics covering LED light strips. I've never messed with them at all so any info some might have on them I'm all ears.. Here is the project I'm currently working on.. It's not a great photo so I'll try to explain a little to what I'm trying to build and maybe some will have some suggestions.. Here is a photo of a 1/8" 12 x 12 mirror tile that I laser engraved. I have a frame design that this will fit into with a slot / opening to feed power cord through for the LED lights. I was originally going to just paint it ( maybe still will if the LED light plan doesn't work ) but thought putting lights around the inside of the frame might be a nice touch. BTW this is just a Christmas gift for my sons girlfriend so not something I'm selling. So I guess my question is.. what LED lights to use? I seen these at HF but 25ft is a lot and was hoping for something a little cheaper. I'm guessing I only need 4-5 ft of lights.. was thinking about painting the backer white and running lights around the inner edge of the frame so it's like a light box or box frame with lights, LOL. https://www.harborfreight.com/12-ft-led-tape-light-70030.html These lights would be perfect but 25ft is overkill, however if i could cut them up and make new lights for more of these mirrors it'd be great.. however there is only one remote and plug as far as I can tell. So maybe I need to look elsewhere for a shorter strip of lights or a roll of lights where I can make my own and buy power supply and remote individually. Or can I buy these HF lights and purchase power supplies and remotes separately somewhere? I placed this on my slider window frame to show how the light shines through.. just thought if I could get color changing LED's they could pick green for the grinch and have it light up.. if not then I'll just paint the back green. Sorry Photo isn't the best but it's pretty hard to take a picture of a mirror, LOL

Those smiles are worth more than any amount of money... hugs are a bonus on top of that.. Job well done.

I'm not scrolling anymore either, however I stick around here too as I gained many friends here. I also feel I owe the folks back for all the help with patterns and other shared knowledge, tips and tricks I've gained here over my time of scrolling. Would love to be still scrolling but just can't do it on a daily anymore with my sinus issues. Would love to have a place like this where I could show some of the laser / cnc stuff and share info, but most sites for those there is a bunch of disrespectful people on them that only want to criticize newbies rather than try to teach them and help them along.

Looks great to me too.. Nice work!! really sort of resembles the walnut and maple one I made.. I run across a picture of mine that came across my memories on Facebook the other day so I saved it to my computer. Here is a shot of mine.. I sold mine on Artfire marketplace years ago as a artwork piece rather than a toy and the buyer paid $110 + shipping

I kinda expected this because they're obviously looking for value of something they have no clue about. I originally ignored the topic because they were clearly not looking for info on how to use it or something pertaining to that.. but rather looking to sell it and wanting to know the value as if they may be hitting the jackpot. Those types never stick around for any type of conversation.. no thanks for the info etc..

Nice work! I did this same one several years ago.. maybe 2013 ish.. Always wanted to make another but never did get to it. I made mine from Walnut and Maple if I remember correctly. It's a fun one and also fairly easy one to make.

The thing with Hawk saws is... most all of them "look new" as they used a high quality powder coating for a finish and even if they sat outside the finish doesn't really fade or make the saw "look old and well used".. Unlike some of the other brands where the paint just falls off without even touching the saw, LOL This seems like a very low serial number so I would guess it's not worth much.. but I'm not going to put a value on something without seeing a photo and knowing more about it.. Location plays a big roll in value too.. places like California where there seems to be an abundance of older Hawk scroll saws you have a lot of them in the $100 - 300 range.. places like the north east the same saw might fetch $300 - 500... As low of serial number is I'm guessing this is very old round barrel clamp saw with the problematic motor so IF that would be the case I'd guess this is worth $150 - 200 at best..

Yeah, it has to be ordered in.. good news is shipping is free and for me it's here within a couple days. I believe this is what is sold on many laser engraving supply stores... but the laser sites seem to have way more options such as good on both sides and many more species including exotics and also various thickness available. There is also a lot of colored acrylics etc too on the laser supply stores. I've always wanted to try scrolling acrylic but never did give it a try.. same with lasering it.. need to order some sample / practice pieces one of these days. This is one of the sites I see thrown around on some of the laser groups / forums.. I've never done any business with them but as you can see they have dyed wood and many acrylics etc. https://makerstock.com/collections/wood

FrankEV is the one that turned me onto these.. I've bought and used a few boxes of the 5/32 size.. back when I was first turned onto these there was a wide variety of species available but now it seems to be most of it is out of stock. They also have 1/4" thick but I've not used it before. The laminate is thinner than say BBply but I've not had any issues with it peeling or any issues whatsoever with this stuff.. The back is not always the same species I don't think.. Though on the maple and birch it's sometimes hard to tell what side is what.. however the walnut looks more like a maple or similar lighter color wood on the back... We've all seen many great pieces Frank has made from these panels and he is a pretty detail oriented person.. If the stuff was junk I would think he wouldn't have been recommending it.. What little I've used I like it.. in fact.. it's been tempting to switch to it rather than using the big sheets of BBply and having to cut them down.. These are 12 x 19 so easy to cut down if needed.. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Columbia-Forest-Products-5-32-in-x-1-ft-x-1-ft-7-in-PureBond-Walnut-Plywood-Project-Panel-10-Pack-5107/312981163

Took me around a year as well, and just like you.. If business was slow and not rushed to get a order out the door I would use the Hawk.. If I was rushed to get something out the door then I used my Dewalt at that time.. I still sometimes do that but now have the Excalibur and it really depends on the project at hand too. That being said the first Hawk I bought had a lot of issues and not knowing the Hawk saws didn't help that situation either.. but it was used a lot before i got it and many things were very worn that I didn't understand at the time.. Lucky I only paid $100 for it and that was probably $100 too much after basically rebuilding the whole saw and adding another $300 in parts it finally worked great, lol.. Without that experience though I still wouldn't know much about those Hawk saws.. but through a lot of trial and error I learned those Hawk saws inside and out. Of coarse much help from Bushton too..