orangeman Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 After hearing some folks on this chat board rave about Olsen blades I decided to test the Olsen 7r and the Pegas 7r- modified geometry blade - which has been my favorite to date. Tested both blades on a Hawk and Hegner. I'm sticking with the Pegas blade! On both machines the Olsen blade left burn marks whereas the Pegas blade did not. bb OCtoolguy, lawson56 and Lucky2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE_M Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Them Olsen blades might be counterfeit or cheap knockoffs. Olson makes the good stuff... I'll be using up my supply of Flying Dutchman for the next few years. I bought so many when I first started, I don't think I'll run out of anything except the puzzle blades, and nobody else seems to be making those. Is the tooth configuration the exact same on both the blades you tried? What's the thickness/width for each? OCtoolguy and SCROLLSAW703 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLSAW703 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I cut alot of cherry with Olson blades, & we all know how easy cherry burns. I don't burn it with Olson blades, or FD either. Burning is caused mainly from blade speed. You've got my attention, though. I'm curious. I've got the same questions Joe does. Was your blade speed the same with both blades? What type of wood did you test with? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iguanadon Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I like the Pegas Modified Geometry #3 and #5 on my Hawk but sticking with the Olson Mach Speed #3 on my DeWalt after tying the Pegas but didn't like them for some reason. Cutting 3/4" poplar OCtoolguy and SCROLLSAW703 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye10 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, orangeman said: After hearing some folks on this chat board rave about Olsen blades I decided to test the Olsen 7r and the Pegas 7r- modified geometry blade - which has been my favorite to date. Tested both blades on a Hawk and Hegner. I'm sticking with the Pegas blade! On both machines the Olsen blade left burn marks whereas the Pegas blade did not. bb Brian I have tried just about all the blades and Pegas is the best for me. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I cut mostly 1/2 - 3/4" Cherry.. and I like to cut fast.. I like my saw speed to be fast.. normally run my DW788 if not full speed.. just under full speed.. I do burn sometimes while using the FDUR blades.. Typically use a #3 or 5.. Olsen PG blades don't seem to burn as bad for me but still do at times.. so over the years I've been forced to slow down... that is until I tried the Pegas MG.. blades.. I also find that many times where I normally used a #5 blade.. I can cut with a 3 with a Pegas.. Not always.. but many times I can cut just as fast or faster with a 3 pegas as I can a #5 in other brands.. They last a really long time too.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyL Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 My biggest complaint with Olsen blades is that they rarely cut straight or anywhere near it. Their "precision ground" blades are better, but even they dull quicker than Flying Dutchman or Pegas blades. I've mostly been buying Flying Dutchman for the past few years. Charley OCtoolguy and SCROLLSAW703 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I have come love the Pegas mod geometry #3 $5. There is NO QUESTION they cut straight. I have around 10-12 doz of the FDURs which I will only use for emergency. Sam OCtoolguy and orangeman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawson56 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I have never tried The Pegas Blades yet,I do like the Olsen and FD.They have always been good to me. SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Being frugal, (read cheap), I used up my FDUR blades and then tried Pegasus MG blades, doubt I will go back to FD at all. Wow what a difference. orangeman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I have always been a FD guy.....the FDUR and the FD new spiral are my go to blades.....I recently bought some Pegas MG blades #3 & #5........I like the Pegas blades in thicker hardwoods .....Just my two cents worth ! SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevan Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I be liking me some of those Pegas #3 and #5 MG blades too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 11 hours ago, SCROLLSAW703 said: I cut alot of cherry with Olson blades, & we all know how easy cherry burns. I don't burn it with Olson blades, or FD either. Burning is caused mainly from blade speed. You've got my attention, though. I'm curious. I've got the same questions Joe does. Was your blade speed the same with both blades? What type of wood did you test with? I have no idea as to the blade speed. Both machines were running full speed. Tested on 3/4" soft maple. bb p.s. how do u measure blade speed? Is there a device? I have a device to measure my lathe rpm - do you think it would work on a scroll saw? SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iguanadon Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Side note... the Pegas blades are thinner so I'm happy using the #5 Pegas whereas I usually use the #3 Olson Mach Speed. The #5 Pegas is stronger and I haven't had one snap while using the Hawk, but sometimes I do have the #3 Pegas snap... and when a blade snaps on the Hawk, it'll startle the crap out of ya. SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blights69 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, Iguanadon said: Side note... the Pegas blades are thinner so I'm happy using the #5 Pegas whereas I usually use the #3 Olson Mach Speed. The #5 Pegas is stronger and I haven't had one snap while using the Hawk, but sometimes I do have the #3 Pegas snap... and when a blade snaps on the Hawk, it'll startle the crap out of ya. Any blade snap still frightens the crap outta me still to get over that part maybe I never will always makes me jump for some reason glad I am not the only one , I like the modified Pegas Blades as well used to use the olson but have swapped over to pegas not that my 2 pennies worth means much I am still a baby at this Sam777 and SCROLLSAW703 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blights69 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, lawson56 said: I have never tried The Pegas Blades yet,I do like the Olsen and FD.They have always been good to me. Buy just one pack to try you will not be disappointed or get someone on here close to you to send you a few to try before you buy Nothing better than try before you buy Edited October 5, 2017 by blights69 Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 The only time that i have olsons blades not cutting sreight is when I put them in upside wown. I run mostly at the #5 speed on my d.w. 788 but when cutting puzzles I run on high speed when cutting out the letters. have tried all the different blades except the jshark tooth blades and I prefer olsons then F.D. On woods like Cherry I cut the speed down to prevent burning. IKE SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 9 hours ago, orangeman said: p.s. how do u measure blade speed? Is there a device? I have a device to measure my lathe rpm - do you think it would work on a scroll saw? Brian, it's easy to measure blade speed... you just have to be really, really fast at counting. Sam777, Iguanadon and JustLarry 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, Dan said: Brian, it's easy to measure blade speed... you just have to be really, really fast at counting. Dan, Not funny BUT funny Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawson56 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 6 hours ago, blights69 said: Buy just one pack to try you will not be disappointed or get someone on here close to you to send you a few to try before you buy Nothing better than try before you buy I'll be ordering some blades soon I will order a pack and give them a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman Posted October 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 17 hours ago, Sam777 said: I have come love the Pegas mod geometry #3 $5. There is NO QUESTION they cut straight. I have around 10-12 doz of the FDURs which I will only use for emergency. Sam Sam, Same here; I have a boatload of FDUR blades gathering dust. The only FD blade I use now is the FD puzzle blade on 1/4" Baltic Birch plywood. 12 years ago I took a class at Woodcraft and the instructor recommended Flying Dutchman blades. So I ordered up some and they worked beautifully when cutting 3/4" puzzles from hardwoods. Used the FD blades for years. Now here is the kicker! I used the FD blades up until a couple years before Mike M. passed away. Then all of a sudden I could not cut puzzles with them. I called Mike and we had a nice chat. So I sent a couple of blades and a piece of 3/4" soft maple with a puzzle pattern. Several days later Mike called and said he couldn't cut puzzles either. He recommended going to a thinner wood - lol. I maintain that the quality of FD blades have deteriorated over the years. Now I'm desperate so I do a google search for scroll saw blades. Pegas caught my eye for some reason. Then I called D&D SawBlades in PA (http://www.dndsawbladesonline.com/ ) and explained my dilemma. He recommended trying the Pegas Modified Geometry blades although he said he had no experience in cutting puzzles. I ordered a dozen to test out and Wowee I have never turned back! Pegas MG blades are my "go-to" blades now. THANK YOU D&D!!!!!! Except for the FD puzzle blade which I use on 1/4" Baltic Birch plywood, I now use Pegas Modified Geometry blades #3, 5, 7, and 9 exclusively. bb Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) I also feel I have received some FD blades that were not up to par. Mainly in the 3/0 New Spiral. That is the only size spiral I like. Most times I have no problems of getting the "hockey stick" effect at the ends of the blade, other times I get a dozen or so that get it all the time. I'm convinced it has something to do with the twist in the blade. I have tried a few of the Pegas spirals and didn't like them as well as the FD's. However, my favorite straight blade was the FD 2/0 PS blades. Then I tried the Pegas 2/0, 0, and 1 double tooth blades and am a big fan. Also tried some of the "modified Geometry" (what does that mean?), and they were too aggressive for the type of scrolling I like to do.. So, "different strokes for different folks". Guess my advice to people would be don' get in a rut, try different blades, sometimes you get something better for you, sometimes not. Edited October 6, 2017 by Scrappile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 i'd be interested in the sharpest, hardest blades if anybody knows that answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 11 hours ago, amazingkevin said: i'd be interested in the sharpest, hardest blades if anybody knows that answer. Kevin, I'MHO, I feel that the Pegas MD fit the description. Give them a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 5:55 PM, Scrappile said: I also feel I have received some FD blades that were not up to par. Mainly in the 3/0 New Spiral. That is the only size spiral I like. Most times I have no problems of getting the "hockey stick" effect at the ends of the blade, other times I get a dozen or so that get it all the time. I'm convinced it has something to do with the twist in the blade. I have tried a few of the Pegas spirals and didn't like them as well as the FD's. However, my favorite straight blade was the FD 2/0 PS blades. Then I tried the Pegas 2/0, 0, and 1 double tooth blades and am a big fan. Also tried some of the "modified Geometry" (what does that mean?), and they were too aggressive for the type of scrolling I like to do.. So, "different strokes for different folks". Guess my advice to people would be don' get in a rut, try different blades, sometimes you get something better for you, sometimes not. I always heed your advice, Paul. After all, who cuts better then you? I know......that is why I listen when you speak Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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