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Well, I wondered if this clock would ever sell... Turns out.. today it did.. traveling a long way too.. Headed to Meerbeke Belgium.. Don't believe I've ever sold to Belgium in the past.. Hope my little Beagle enjoys the ride

Here is some interesting read of the history of Hawk.. I didn't realize this started back in 1929 https://scrollsawhero.com/hawk-scroll-saw-review/

I'm not sure about that.. There was a bunch of "Very Old" single speed and three speed saws that had the round barrel clamp that had cast iron sides at the back of the saw... Those are pretty early saws ( I believe ) because not a one of them is variable speed that I've seen... I've seen a lot of then.. hundreds of them on craigslist and FB marketplace.. You know right away when you see them as the back part of the saw is painted red instead of being machined aluminum. You couldn't give me one of those very old saws.. sure is a lot of them for sale too.. Well you got me on this one.. The first picture is a old saw I was talking about.. The secont picture is a G4 like you mentioned and looks to have casted sides as you said.. I never seen one like that..

Well I cut one offs now and then with just one piece.. Never had much issues with it.. I do like stack cutting because most times I'm selling the piece and maybe more buyers at a later time.. If it's a personalized item that only needs one piece.. I just cut the one piece.. I originally cut this one as a single piece... then everyone wanted one and I ended up having to cut 4 more... that's why i just stack cut everything now.. That's a lot of holes to cut for just one time... then need to make 2 more a week later.. LOL.. Not doing that again unless it's personalized..

If you're lucky, LOL I learned to "Call" and ask questions before I order... The one girl ( Nicole ) is in the know and knows whats going on most times.. Get the other girl and she might ask for your serial number and then ask where the blade holder goes on the saw and basically has know idea hat you really want.. ( I'm exaggerating a little but you get the idea )... Most times Nicole would give a estimate of when they might have the part if they don't have it in stock...BUT... she quit.. to stay at home with the kids.. She maybe there part time? i don't know... The other girl has forgotten that you even placed an order... I sometimes wonder if that is the bigger problem... Communication between the office and the person in the shop making the parts.. I don't know.. I just know that since Nicole stepped aside... it's a mess.. not that it wasn't before.. but it's really bad now.. Getting someone to actually answer the phone now is a miracle... I've been trying to get through for 3-4 weeks.. I've only called 4 times.. as I keep forgetting.. But no answer and the voicemail has been full since before Christmas so you can't even leave a message..

I agree with JT, They are awesome saws.. Every dealing I've ever done with them has been less than stellar service though.. even way back before I bought my new saw a year ago from last December.. I never gave them any grief about it because I posted on here or somewhere 4-5 years ago about their service ( probably here ) and someone mentioned to me that I was ordering parts for a 35 year old saw.. and gave me the talk about how you can't even get parts for most saws that old... So I chalked it up to that.. Then I read all the stuff about small business and the Farming etc etc.. The saws ( I personally feel ) are so good that waiting 6-8 weeks for a part was worth it to me.. I have multipal saws.. so not a huge deal. When I ordered my new Hawk December 2018 and didn't take delivery until almost April 2019.. I jokingly said something about a discounted price for the frustration.. I wasn't expecting anything but the words from the one girl was like yeah we have to pay our employees and blah blah.. That showed me they care less about the customer.. or at least that lady did.. I thought having the other girl on the phone I would have gotten somewhere with that... Now I'm not so sure.. I also hate to see anything happen to the company and that was one reason I waited so patiently in the past for my saw parts and my new saw.. The issue is... not many people will be as understanding as I was... They really need some business 101 schooling and customer service schooling... I'm sad to say but... I'm doubtful they will change things around unless they hire out someone else to run the place.. Good machinist and engineers... not good business operators.. RBI had a real good business going and made a BIG name for their quality machinery ( not just scroll saws ) but I feel Bushton has only been running on that name.. and solely that name.. Many people including myself had been and still does respect and defend the Hawk saws.. but ... how long will they be able to hold onto a name like that while running the place as they do.. word gets around quite fast this day and age..

They did go to a metal instead of the plastic on the new saws... Not sure when they did this but my new saw is metal... It'll be that way with your new "Upgraded" upper blade holder you get with that kit you ordered JT.. Both upper and lower blade holders have that metal tab on them as both holders are removable.. You will see once you get your order..Hopefully very soon.. As for anything else being plastic.. The front angle mount is plastic... BUT not anything Bushton did... it's the design that RBI did when they went to the G4 saw.. as I've said.. the new saw is basically a G4 with a upgraded bearing plate and motor.. as there was some motor / bearing issues with the G4.. I do not know of any other plastic.. As for China made... Everything with the saw mechanism is made right in Bushton KS... Some of the parts are China made.. which are bearings.. maybe other "outsourced" parts I don't know... This is also not something Bushton did... My old ultra saw had bearings in it that said made in China... as well as my old 1993 220vs.. BUT.. these days it's getting hard to find anything that is 100% USA made.... JT best of luck with getting the parts.. Hoping the new guy will get things turned around.. I won't go into detail but the one girl that was answering the phone before shouldn't have been working there... One other time when I got the girl that does know whats going on.. I couldn't hear a word she said and she couldn't here me because a kid was screaming in the background and throwing a fit about something.. Probably why she posted she was taking a break from the business to raise the kids..I won't go into any more than that.. They have a "dealer" named Mike from Florida.. I lost his contact info but he could get you parts and saws at a better deal... and you could avoid the phone lines in Bushton.. Mike knew his parts etc too..

I think the fexable hose you're looking for is lock line.. Here is a google search page of it.. I'll let you choose where you buy from, LOL There has been many topics about dust collection at the saw on here... and though I haven't done it yet.. there are some here that probably could help ore than I can with the questions.. either way... check this link out.. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS778US778&sxsrf=ACYBGNS6fZj1GObORt5VTzNgJzBzWSZAJw%3A1579570155839&ei=61MmXrbgMtG3tQa9qJyABQ&q=line+lock+hose&oq=line+lock+hose&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i22i10i30j0i22i30.4820.7345..7676...0.2..0.82.371.5......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i20i263j0i67.HBIthIAUeuI&ved=0ahUKEwj2gaWwxZPnAhXRW80KHT0UB1AQ4dUDCAs&uact=5 edit to add... You may want to buy the special tool for this stuff.. I've read it make the job of putting it together easier.. but can be done without it as well..

I do see what you mean.. I never really noticed it until you brought it to my attention though, LOL

Hmm those are names I have not yet heard of.. I did hear quite some time ago.. ( before I order the new saw last year ) that Nilus (however it's spelled LOL) left the company.. and I think he was the main owner? one of the head business guys I believe anyway.. I just read a while ago on their site News page that Nicole.. The one girl that was very knowledgeable on these saws was taking a long break to raise the small children.. Think it was her that had a child back when Scott was buying a saw and was somewhat delayed because of the birth of their child. The other girl I've got on the phone once didn't even act like she new was a scroll saw was, LOL ( that's exaggerating but you get the idea..) and she acted like I was being a pain in the rear for wanting her to look up a part.. and also to ask about a serial number to a saw I was looking to buy.. I hope you get your parts soon..

I just followed the pattern Ray.. It's how it was designed... Sue shows on her site where they painted the wings.. I'm not much for painting wood myself.. but I think it looks okay painted too I suppose.. I will say.. this looks like it'd be quite solid of a piece.. but they do break quite easily.. I've broke more than one of these over the years... The whole thing is pretty flexible after cutting out those long wings.. The wing on the right the very outside edge cutout.. long sweeping cutout.. I've had break.. either near the bottom on the brides side down by the lower dress area... I'm thinking she didn't cut more out on the other wing because it's already pretty fragile for such a larger cutting.. the angel is about 11" tall.. barely fits on the sheet of paper when printing it out.. https://www.scrollsawartist.com/guardian-angel-of-matrimony-en.html EDIT To add.. Maybe a better way to make this would be to stack cut from thin wood and glue a backer on.. I honestly don't think it'd look very good cut from any thin piece without a backer.. I believe Sue recommended 3/4" wood for this... But that it only a recommendation... I often cut stuff thin and add backers etc.. Also could be a nice hanging piece without the base etc.. It's also quite fragile up around the face of the angel area.. and I wouldn't think hanging with a ribbon through the hair cutouts by the angels face would be a good idea unless it was plywood where it has a little more strength..

Well, I wasn't going to show my first because I figured I no longer had the picture... but in looking for a old truck picture for my son.. I found the very first piece I made.. Ignore the date.. I took the picture a few years after actually cutting it.. I don't have a photo of my most recent cut but I do have a photo of one that is fairly new.. plus most of you all have seen most of my recent work in the last few years.. Cut this on my fathers old Delta 2 speed saw.. this is a scrap plywood 3/8" from a camper re-roofing job.. blade was most likely a old Olsen 2/0 reverse tooth... I still have the old Delta 40-560 type 2 saw...

That's going to be one nice box Paul... My favorite scrolling is the detailed portrait type scenes... Sadly they just aren't something that sells very well.. so I don't do a lot of it..

Thank you Dan,

These pictures help at all... I'm not really understanding your question.. but this pictures are from my etsy page.. last picture is of a custom order one where I added the date..

Nice work!! I really like the wolf cutouts... I've also been snowed in... I didn't work one bit in the shop in the last 3 or so days.. I spent my days outside working with my son and on my tractor trying to plow a path out to the back 40 to dig out a old truck that he sold.. by the time we got the truck loaded up on the guys trailer we was sopping wet and cold.. I haven't been outside since.. well that's sort of a fib.. this afternoon i did go out and cut a ornament for my wife to give a co-worker that is leaving for another job.. but this didn't take only a few minutes to make.. I'm not complaining about this Michigan winter though.. so far it's been quite mild.. Now if we can have a normal spring / summer... unlike last year where it was cold and rainy until July..

Most all the parts are the same parts as the bigger saws other than the arms... They sell motor upgrades and you can send the arms in to be re-machined for inserts for the wedges... short of that.. not much you can't just go pick up at a hardware store.. Buston really hasn't made much improvements short of changing out the bearing block on the end of the motor and the motor / controller assembly.. RBI designed the G4 saw.. The NEW BM series saw is nothing more than a G4 with a motor change and the bearing on the motor shaft.. short of that I think from what I've seen.. it's the same saw as the G4.. I have the new BM-26.. But I've never been face to face with a G4.. based on pictures etc.. the G4 looks to be the same saw..

I should have saved the link.. I was searching searchtempest and did every state.. There is a Hawk that had the benchtop legs set.. Short little thing.. Think it was a 216 single speed though but the short benchtop legs just made it look funny.. Here it is: https://eastidaho.craigslist.org/tls/d/firth-hawk-precision-scroll-saw/7044576141.html

This 14 saw looks like they used the 16" arms and just let them hang off the back of the saw.. LOL

He says it shakes bad.. I'm guessing he hadn't adjusted the stand to be planted to the floor really well... My first Hawk was horrible.. I almost didn't buy it. but I figured for $100 I'd give it a try.. once the stand was planted firm on my shop floor.. run really nice...

I don't use a lot of these sprays as 99% of my patterns are printed on self adhesive full sheet shipping labels.. BUT.. what little I do use I still probably go through a couple cans of the spray a year.. I have used several "different" ( I say different meaning other than the 3M77) .. I've found that none of them work as well as the 3M77.. BUT you can get decent results from the others and what I've learned is.. IF I spray the pattern about two times the amount of spray I'd use with the 3M77 they all seem to work well enough.. But with the 3M77.. seems to last 2-3 times longer per can than the others.. The 3M77 does however sometimes spit the spray out in an uneven spray pattern where the others seem to do a nice even spray mist.. I've used the Elmer brand.. That was one of the ones that I had to lay it on quite heavy otherwise I'd get lifting.. My last can was Grizzly glue brand big orange can.. I think it was a little better than the elmer brand but not by a whole lot.. The can I have now is the 3M45... which also has a nice spray mist... does seem to stick well... I've gotten used to the fine spray mist of the other brands I tend to spray a little on the "heavy" side with those type sprays.. so I'm probably using more than I need to with this can.. You do get much better results with ANY of these brands IF you shake the crap out of them to get them mixed well..

I had the Navy sign taken down by etsy... They wasn't a good seller so I didn't fight it.. They are a Keith Fenton pattern.. I contacted Keith about the issue.. I still do not know if I was in the wrong or not.. as after about three weeks etsy contact me and says they removed a lot of "Navy " stuff and some of it was wrong on their part...apparently they just went and did a search for Navy and started removing stuff.. I was always under the thought that you couldn't use their logos but could use the names... I've never used their logos.. Keith was blown away about it and said they do everything they can to not do patterns that might be an issue... I don't know whether or not you can use the military names or not.. Keith still offers the sign patterns on their site.. and has since made many other military things.. Sue Mey has Military ornament crosses.. I've never relisted the sign on etsy.. I do have the other military branches on there.. In searching all I find about copyright and trademark is info about the logos... so this in particular is a grey area for me.. as well as many other things.. I guess I need to read the link Roq posted.. maybe that will enlighten me.. Thanks for posting that.. I wish it was easier to find this type of info online for other things..

I can't find it now.. maybe too tired.. but they also made a 212.. 12" throat.. The table looks to be made from stamped steel.. tiny little thing.. There is one I ran across on craigslist or FB just today.. but I don't know where it was or what site I seen it on.. I use searchtempest.com to search craigslist.. this way it's quicker to look throughout the entire USA.. Facebook only allows you to look within 100 mile range... But you can type in a city or zip code to look within a 100 mile the entered zip or city.. I just went through a bunch today just playing around.. so who knows where I seen it. LOL They also had a small saw called the hobby hawk.. might be the same as the 212? looks real similar.. And a saw called the WoodMaster.. There was a saw I posted images on a long while back that had a odd looking table and many here said it was a non hawk made table on that saw... still for sale on craiglist ( again somewhere LOL ) and I found that they actually did make this odd looking table on a certain ( earlier model saw..).. There is a manual on the Hawks website for the 212.. Actually just going through the manuals section on their site they also show the Hobby hawk as well as the weird looking table older saw.. Some links to those manuals below if you're curious enough, LOL 212 saw: http://www.hawkwoodworkingtools.com/files/SawManuals/Model_212.pdf Hobby Hawk: http://www.hawkwoodworkingtools.com/files/SawManuals/model_hobby_hawk.pdf Odd Looking Table Hawk http://www.hawkwoodworkingtools.com/files/SawManuals/model_2526.pdf

Oddly, I'd like to have it as a novelty.. or just as a rare collector piece... but not necessarily need it or for that matter not for that price either.. BUT if i won the lotto or something LOL.. While it's not a old piece of equipment it certainly is a rare one.. I was quite disappointed that they never released a smaller saw.. But then when i went to buy my new one.. i went with the biggest one for some reason LOL.. My friend had a 216VS for a short time and I kick myself for not buying it from him..

For spirals and real small blades I run my finger along the teeth and "feel" which side is up / down.. The teeth will grab you sort of if you're sliding the finger up the blade.. and they won't be grabby sliding down the blade.. Someone mentioned think of it as a fireman sliding down the pole at the firehouse... you can slide down but not up the pole.. LOL Not sure who said that.. but it stuck with me.. So if the finger slides "down" without grabbing the teeth or being scratchy then that's the top of the blade... Be sure to do thin towards the middle of the blade for those blades that have reverse teeth... that can mess with you a bit if you're not careful... do ask how i know that one...