JT, I agree with what you say regarding those two saws mentioned but all the Dewalt style saws have known problems with their bearings and sleeves. They all have a reputation for lack of grease or bad grease from the factories. With that said, why not take the time to inspect and do a proper lube job on them before they ruin the bearings and sleeves which expensive and hard to get. When I first got my Dewalt, I had no idea what the previous owner had done or not done so once I became aware of all the pitfalls and problems that the Dewalt saws have, I said why not go through and make sure everything is in good shape. I'm glad I did because a few of the bearings were almost dry and a few of the sleeves were on the verge of wearing through the hardening. Once I did the lube service that saw ran so much smoother and quieter that I know I did the right thing. Granted, the Hawks and the Hegners don't have all that mechanical stuff to worry about. I have had both of those saws. I cleaned and oiled the arms on my Hegner and checked the pivot points on both arms and made sure they were clean and oiled. I did the same thing on the Hawk. I didn't notice any change on either of them as I did with the Dewalt. I'm not sure about what I'll find in either of my EX's but I'm hoping that they had a better quality grease in their bearings but after I get done with them I will know what they have. Like you said, "we all have opinions" and I guess that's a good thing.