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I have a question regarding finishing baltic birch plywood
OCtoolguy replied to OCtoolguy's topic in General Scroll Sawing
Ok, I managed to get the pics from my phone to my PC and resize them so here they are. Nothing to brag about but just for the sake of explanation. The corners here look bad but will be taken care of in later operations. -
Good advice Charley. I did find a good source for the bearings near me but sleeves are the real expense. It appears from my research that Dewalt has the market cornered on them. They are twice the price of the bearings so if you need them, the cost to rebuild is pretty high. Crazy!
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I have a question regarding finishing baltic birch plywood
OCtoolguy replied to OCtoolguy's topic in General Scroll Sawing
I think Mohawk is a brand that Behlen makes. Thanks. I was hoping to find it locally but so far no luck. -
I have a question regarding finishing baltic birch plywood
OCtoolguy replied to OCtoolguy's topic in General Scroll Sawing
Thanks Dan. I did buy the Minwax lacquer but couldn't figure out what to buy for the "toner". I agree with you on the type of wood but this is a project that called for BB ply. It's a tissue box for the cubes that are all over our house. I could have gone the easy way and just done it natural but my wife wanted it to be dark/light to work with the picture frames in our bathroom. I'm doing it mainly to get the feel for my Hegner saw. Something simple and quick. Or supposed to be simple and quick. Here's a pic. The 4 outsides with the palm trees will be dark and the inner box will be natural. If you watched the video, I'd like the color to be just like the last panel with the toner/lacquer. I will have to add the pic from my computer. The file size on my phone is too large. Later. -
The secret is to have 2 and rotate them. Always have one ready with new bears/sleeves/grease.
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I've been watching this video about how to stain BB plywood. It seems like a pretty straight forward informative video but at the end, the presenter stains the wood and after it dries he sprays it with a "master toner" lacquer from H. Behlen. I've not been able to find it anywhere. I did find the second spray finish he applied under the brand name Minwax rather than Deft. Deft is not available anywhere near me. I have bought it before at the local Ace but not anymore. It seems that covid has ruined many things. Anyway, can someone explain to be what the "master toner" might be and how I might find it? Or do I even need it? I am making my first project using BB ply and want to finish part of it in a dark walnut stain and leave part of it natural with just a clear finish on it. Here is the link to the video I've been watching and maybe someone here might be able to advise me after watching it. Thanks for your time.
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I totally agree with you Kevin and also Charley. The problem that we run into now though is the cost of everything has risen to the point to where it becomes nuts to spend the money on an old saw. If you replace all the bearing and the sleeves, you've got almost the price of a new saw when on sale. It's a sad fact of life that things do reach a point where it's just cheaper to recycle them.
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Hi Kevin, to address the RV thing first, we are now both late 70's so our RV days are pretty much behind us. No matter what, it's still a lot of work to set up and take down your rig each time you move. That said, that in itself would not turn me off. But, the young families DO. They young set today have no regards for anybody but themselves and to try to address the out of control kids, you might as well put your fingers in a lamp socket. They will defend them all the way up to and including committing murder. I'm not a KID person but to find a family with well behaved kids, I always take the time to compliment the parents. So, we will just sell out and leave that lifestyle to the more "flexible" people who don't mind being intruded upon by others who you don't really want to be with. Ok, now to explain myself on the choice of saws. If you noticed, I led off with a 14" Hegner. Mainly for it's size and weight. That would be the best for carting around in an RV. I do love my Excaliburs but they are heavy and even the 16" is still bigger than my 18" Hegner. I've measured them. And they weigh about the same or more than my 18" Hegner. If you have a huge RV with diesel power, then the sky is the limit. At that point, I'd opt for the saw that I like the most. I'm still deciding which one I favor but I'm still leaning toward the Ex's. Mainly because I like to do angled cutting and the tilting arm/head are just great. And the Hegners have so few moving parts to maintain that they become something that can take being jostled around in the storage compartments of an RV. So, I think I have explained my choice. As for the vibration issue, I have had all of my saws running on my bench at one time or another and find that if clamped down they all have a certain amount of vibration but each one has what I call a "sweet spot". I never run any of my saws full speed. I find that the Hegner has a spot between 700 and 1000 that is just right and it doesn't seem to matter whether it's on the factory stand or on my bench. When on the stand, it is still sitting on a foam pad floor covering. None of my 3 saws vibrate uncontrollably. If they did, they'd belong to someone else. I am going to have to sell one of my Ex's and it will probably be the 16 inch just because I need the space. No other reason. I love them all.
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I was a full time RVer and understand your question. After owning 5 different brands/types of saws, were I to go back on the road my saw would be a Hegner. I'd probably try to find a used 14" saw just because of it's overall size/weight. Being in an RV I'd probably not be doing large projects so the capacity would not be a problem. But if you wanted more table/neck capacity then the 18" would be the next choice. I presently own an Ex16, Ex21 and the Hegner 18". Weight-wise the Ex21 is the heaviest. The Ex16 second and the Hegner 3rd. It's overall size is also the smallest. I'd not use the factory stand. I'd mount it to a platform and clamp it to a picnic table or some other heavy table. Not something I'd carry with me. You'd figure out a way. When I was on the road I took up woodcarving so my hobby took up no space and weighed nothing. Good luck in your travels. Your biggest problem will be the fact that it has become very crowded out there now. With the onset of the covid mandate, housebound people all decided to go RVing. We just came back from a long trip and the frustrations of finding a place to park and fighting off the obnoxious new RVers made the trip miserable. We are selling our rig. No more for us.
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It's strange that you bring up table size Kevin. I have the 2 Ex's and now a Hegner. The Hegner's table is even smaller than the Ex. But, for me, it hasn't made a difference. I've not run out of room for anything that I've but. I'm just not sure why folks are hung up on that particular thing. If you need a larger table, make an accessory table that can be mounted when needed. To me, it's just not a deal breaker. I guess if you are into doing those huge fretwork pieces with spiral blades, I can see where it might be important but that's not my forte.
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You are so right Kevin. My point was to say that if customer service and parts availability are important to the buyer, Seyco would have to be my first choice. As you know, it's not that big a deal for me. I would lean heavily on the Pegas if they had a phone number where you could actually speak to a representative when you needed help. As far as I know, they still aren't servicing ALL the parts in their saws. To me, that says something. At one point it looked like Bob Duncan was going to be that person but I hear he is no longer affiliated with Pegas. I know Denny is our go-to guy here on The Village but even he doesn't have access to all the parts that might be needed. I made the statement regarding "buying American" not because of the country of origin but to support an American company that is marketing good products. I hope you get my drift.
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Well, all 3 are good saws but the Pegas & Seyco are far better. And service from Seyco is great. If it were me, owning 2 Ex's, I'd opt for the Pegas just because of the tilt mechanism. But I'm rapidly becoming a "buy American" person so I might buy a Seyco. Call Ray and talk to him. He might just make your decision easier. You can't do that with any other saw maker.
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Wood prices, be on the lookout for...
OCtoolguy replied to new2woodwrk's topic in General Scroll Sawing
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If you had it apart to do a bearing service, there's always a chance that something didn't get put back correctly or has come loose. As to the bearing service, what you did was to prevent a problem if you didn't find any problems. The grease that is in the bearings from the factory is crap if it is even there at all. So lubing with the synthetic grease was a very good thing. When you turn your speed up are you able to hear where the noise is coming from? Does the sound change under a load when cutting? Or is it a knocking without a load?
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Here is a link to the one we bought but it is no longer available. There was one like it in plastic but I can't find it. Anyway, this will give you an idea of what I'm talking about. https://www.amazon.com/Itlovely-Cyclone-Vacuums-Generation-Turbocharged/dp/B07P5L8YPZ?pd_rd_w=L24Cd&pf_rd_p=8b38c2b6-9022-4264-97d9-42a79e72c68a&pf_rd_r=6JAM467KEX4JCQ1Q382K&pd_rd_r=e41c65c6-6f14-4ef0-a0d4-8f1479910250&pd_rd_wg=TX11p&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_d_csi_day0_0_t I did a google search and found that it is available through this link. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32888242549.html?albpd=en32888242549&acnt=708-803-3821&aff_platform=aaf&albpg=894486321593&netw=u&albcp=9760820159&sk=UneMJZVf&trgt=894486321593&terminal_id=255480ec239441168d8d17915fa70a35&tmLog=new_Detail&needSmbHouyi=false&albbt=Google_7_shopping&src=google&crea=en32888242549&aff_fcid=a7714fbe34c645b1b1f19db3d3d86f83-1625858093440-05401-UneMJZVf&gclid=CjwKCAjw55-HBhAHEiwARMCszl0HF-dLvPRSR8lK7Q44Xg6IvFaLHcgHUvjh88s-CytXGjGizIui_RoCoHsQAvD_BwE&albag=99451607003&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&albch=shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&aff_trace_key=a7714fbe34c645b1b1f19db3d3d86f83-1625858093440-05401-UneMJZVf&device=c&gclsrc=aw.ds
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You have a great set up there but I would like to suggest one thing. Try to locate one of the Dust Deputy/Dustopper addons for your vacuum so that it will collect the fine dust and not burn out your vacuum. There has been an ongoing conversation or conversations regarding this subject. Rockytime and I have incorporated a mini cyclone that we bought on Amazon and when mounted in a coffee can or some type of receptable it captures almost all of the dust. I have a vac like yours and it has almost no filtration in it so it will soon lay waste to the motor in it. I'll try to find a link to the cyclones that we used. In the meantime make sure you keep a clean bag in the vac as that is just about the only filter. That little scrap of ??? hardly does anything.
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Thank you very much for your distinction
OCtoolguy replied to frankorona's topic in General Scroll Sawing
I do FB quite a bit and when you posted this, I had to go and check it out. Very nice work. Congrats on your acknowledgement. I hope to see more. -
Glad to hear positive news. I hope your relocation turns out to be what you were hoping for. I envy you in many ways.
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I went through the exact same as you. I finally took that aluminum cover off and took it to a belt sander and really shaved a bunch off of it. I made sure the rod was adjusted up enough that I could still get good tension with the slide lever. After that, no more noise. As for your bearings, it might be a good idea to take your saw apart per the video and do a good clean and grease on them. It's not a tough job, just time consuming. A Saturday afternoon. I did it on mine using the Valvoline synthetic grease and a pipe cleaner. It made a lot of difference in vibration and noise. All scroll saws will vibrate at some speed or another. A lot of it can depend on how you have the saw mounted and positioned in your shop. If you don't move it much, as has been mentioned, a bag of sand on the lower rungs of the stand will take most of the vibration out of it. The DW is a very good saw so don't give up on it unless you just want a new saw. I started with one and then moved on up the quality ladder as good used ones came available. I now have what I feel to be the best their is.
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Wood prices, be on the lookout for...
OCtoolguy replied to new2woodwrk's topic in General Scroll Sawing
My wife says I'm a dumpster diver and chastizes me when I drag sonethibg home. Anything I bring home had better be used or hidden in short order or I'm in trouble. Can you tell who is in charge? -
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That's it!
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And, be sure to come back and ket us know what you found and how you fixed it. I'll lay odds on it being related to the tension rod and it's cover.
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I used to have the same problem but found the answer. Just cut close to the line leaving enough to see the line. Then go to the disc sander and sand to the line. Really easy and quick.
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Very nice Frank. Your work and creativity is top notch. Would you care to share the pattern you made? I've spent too many hours trying to learn Inkscape to no avail. I've decided to rely on other more gifted folks.
