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Also if people do not like what I write do not read it. scroll on past. Not sure if this site has an ignore feature but if so use that then. Not hurting me. Just so no one gets the notion,I NEVER EVER EVER said for anyone not to buy any tool they want. Maybe if I saw someone going down a wrong path for a reason but that is the exception. HF is trying to market themselves as the next Sears. But what I and again my opinion is they have too many brands. Hercules was their flagship tool for awhile and now Bauer which as I mentioned I just read an opinion that they are below the HERC. line. I do not get it. You own the rights of these companies, tell them what you want to see. Always buy within your means. I would love to buy into the Festool line. But from here on out I changed once from Makita to now Dewalt. Mostly American made tools which is what I like. As far as battery life goes. again do the ratings or look for them on the net. I am sure they were tested. Give the line of Bauer some time and they probably will come up with another line in 10 years. We basically are old farts on this site, lets face it so none of us are buying huge amount of tools any more. Our tools have been bought already. But every now and then a new tool does appear in the line of tools you own. I just bought and mentioned this before, before Christmas. The new Dewalt 20V sliding miter saw. It is going to be perfect for all the molding I have to install in all my rooms because I can easily carry it. I do not need a big heavy sliding miter. I have one that sits in the shop. Those things are heavy. But if someone is looking for one and does not the used route then knock your wallet off. Go for it.

It was another page from a source I wanted to post that showed the good and bad tools of HF again one person's opinion. In it he said the Bauer line is far under classed to the Hercules line and does not even come close to Dewalt line. If that be the case not sure what HF is doing if they sell the Hercules line even in battery tools. Also pointed out the number of brands under the HF name but all made in China. Again I am not dissing HF but when comparing tools from a hobby home use to a commercial line like Dewalt there is going to be a tough fight. Dewalt is a proven line in both home use and commercial line. You do not see HF tools on job sites at least not the ones I was on. Now can HF tools stand up and last a long time sure without question. Especially if used sparingly. That is all I am saying. As some have pointed out their age plays a factor when buying new toys. Understandable.

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Say what you want Kevin. There is no side by side rating there. Put it through its paces then it is a side by side. I am not defending Dewalt or dissing HF but price wise HF will ALWAYS have the lower prices. He unboxed the saw and it looks like the Dewalt. How many times have we said over and over again here about scrollsaws looking alike. A little difference here and there. He said his Dewalt saw was still kicking. let him come back in 10 years and tell us. That is all I am saying. You must have stock in HF I am guessing. Go on the internet and you can see hundreds of comparisons of tools within all brand names but remember one person's view that is all it is just like this video. One person's view.

I do not see the purpose of these type threads. Of course anything HF sells is going to be cheaper than brand names. Many times you pay for the brand name but many times you pay for better quality. Especially any of the bench top tools. If a person uses a tool once in a blue moon it should last them a life time. If a person uses the tool for their livelyhood they will want a better quality tool. That Dewalt saw he compared to will outlast him. I thought Hercules was HF old brand name, why not name it a Bauer saw? Heck you can find a used tool of brand name cheaper than that saw. What does that prove? You notice he used my exact words in that video, "If the tool has a motor I am not buying from HF" they are trying hard to change that stigma. Disposables, I buy all the time. They are one and done items. If it breaks not out much money.

Brings back a few memories. I see the Berry Basket collapsible basket in background. Also see the book of other items. I use to do both. I would leave a book full of photos of different items that can be ordered or I had but no room to display. I think what sold your ornaments was the beautiful ornament not so much the box. I say this because we do not box other things and sell. Why just ornaments? I know when I first started I carried to the shows different sized cardboard boxes to be able to give people a box to put the item in instead of a bag. But that just slowed things down too much. Everyone is different and if it makes sales then it is a good selling practice for we all are after the same thing$$$. At one time I was going to use those portable picture frames that can show photos on a loop. Then thought of a lap top but never did any of that. Anyway nice display.

See that usually does not work for when I see people that sell them They usually have some sort of display such as a Christmas tree or just metal tress where they can thumb through them easily. Hey if selling with a box means more $$ then go for it but I have watched many people sell ornaments next to my booths or in the show when I walk around. I have been told I should make them but my answer is too small and not worth my effort. Can not do multiples. Just not built for making multiples. I have a very active mind as I mentioned before. Have so many ideas run through it and to get bogged down with cutting same things is a drag for me. Just the way I am built. I leave that all to you Kevin Have fun. My sister makes ornaments that are knitted. No boxes. Displays on a stand. As I said when selling my pens or even giving them away I ask if they want a box and then ask will they keep pen in the box because it is waste to buy a $50 box to throw away. That is why I offer different range of prices in boxes. I just bought a couple days ago some $3.50 pen boxes that are beautiful and make great gifts with a pen. But I will not charge for those boxes because there is enough markup in the pen. Have boxes that are $10 each. People use pens differently than ornaments. Can be a desk pen or a carry pen or a special gift pen. I do not display pens or anything in a box. People love to pick up and touch and feel.

This is basically how most people think who make this and other things as a hobby. It is not a job where you rely on the income. Because then you would approach selling a whole lot differently. prices vary from state to state and even area to area if selling in person. If selling on line you set a price that you are comfortable with and everyone draws from the same pool of items. We went through the pros and cons so many times on this forum it gets boring. I see the same questions asked in the pen turning forum and the same answers apply. I made my money in my real profession. This business was a hobby with the ability to make a few extra dollars. I will say that just about all shows I ever done and been at no one sells a box with ornaments. Just about every crafter sells some sort of ornaments weather scrollsaw, knitted or some other medium way it was made. I do see people with small bags for lack of a better word. You can buy those in bulk for very cheap prices. I sold some pens and ask my customers if they prefer a pouch or a box. Now if they say box I have to decide or let them decide what box because I have 50 cent boxes that do just nice but also have $50 boxes that drive cost of pen up and have to charge as such. Now selling on line you have to put in a box of some sort so why not a decent one and reflect it in the price but again you can buy those in bulk for cheap money. That being said though size of ornaments can determine how it is shipped also. I use plastic boxes for my birdhouse ornaments that I sell both in person and send in mail. They can be delicate so needs protection. All this stuff depends how, where and what you sell.

Example of redheart.

My price would be $8 to $12 especially if stack cutting. Tops. Really not complicated of a cutting. Type of wood plays a role too. if BB I lean more toward $10

Good to see you back. I too have been out of my shop for quite some time. Close to a year. Stepped back in this past Thursday and sure is good to get back. Have so many little projects I want to try before summer comes. I need to slowly get the feel of tools again. We forget things but they should come back to us quickly. Good luck with your show and getting the puzzles cut.

I too am a dipper in Danish oil. I love Watco Danish oil. I sand all my projects to 220 grit. Then dip and drain and wipe. Let dry for a few days. The small amount of poly in the Danish oil will give a nice warm glow and feel to the piece. Now on occasions like with shelves I will put a light coat of Watco liquid wax on them. Have to be careful not to get into fret work because you will not be able to wipe it out and it could clump. I just put small amount on a soft cotton cloth if I do this. But most times not needed.

In the turning world Cocobolo is probably the one that effects alot of turners. Will say this Padauk is has to be the dustiest wood ever made by Mother Nature. The dust gets everywhere. You have been warned. Many times different species of woods come from different parts of the world. I know bloodwood is one of them. Many times you have no idea where they came from so hard to tell you to change sources. Good luck.

There are some here in the library

It will come back to you. I was in the shop today and started turning a pen. I have not been in my shop close to a year now and it has been that long since i turned a pen. I have to train my brain all over again. getting a feel again for the tools. I am sure I will pick it back up. It is sure good to get back working in the shop again though. that is where I am at peace. You too will get the feel back and it will be like second nature.

Scrollsaw works just fine. I wish I had one left I could take photos of mine but I do not have alot of my first projects. A nice heart shape one is the ticket. If you follow through with the idea, show us a photo. Just thinking after I left and another idea I was kicking around was doing a sliding top for my pen boxes. Maybe that can work for those small ring boxes. Or I have seen small boxes where they use a pivot pin in a corner and the top pivots to a side and uses a magnet to catch when swung back That is even easier than the barrel hinges. Good luck.

Kevin they can make them on a CNC machine today and probably pop them out by the thousands. Cut the top and bottom from a board 3/4" thick is perfect.

Kevin that is what I was using on the small ring boxes. They are called barrel hinges and you can get them in any sizes. I bought about 3 years ago a bunch because I was taking that concept into my pen turning and wanting to make pen boxes that I give with my pens. I was going to try to match woods from the pen to the box if I was selling a wood pen. But I had a couple different designs I wanted to try. One was with those barrel hinges and one was with just pins in the sides. I just did not follow through but the idea is still in my plans. The big thing with those type hinges is you have to make relief cuts in the back between lid and body of box that is at an angle so the boxes opens properly. There are videos of this on net and the hinges are inexpensive and very easy to install. Most that size are glued in. The larger ones have small tiny screws that you tighten and they expand the sides to adhere them. They are easier to replace if broken but small ones are tough to replace but they are pretty tough so should last if not abused. They are called cancelled hinges which makes them high class looking. Pintrest is your friend. Look for ring boxes and you will see plenty of examples. Not hard to make and can be done on a scrollsaw very easily. That is how I did it. You can get as fancy as you want and technical as you want. You can inlay the top and bottom or just adhere the bottom flush with box. I preferred inlay. You can use acrylic in the lid to show off the ring or decorate the top something like I did with my trinket boxes. One other thing I used small magnets to keep closed. Those were hard to find but today they make magnets any size you want. https://www.etsy.com/listing/755504031/barrel-hinge-concealed-hinges-wooden?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_-home_and_living-domestic_med&utm_custom1=_k_93149c89aa131af32c1efb1b3468d4cc_k_&utm_content=bing_412373112_1296324507155169_81020345435111_pla-4584619897188477:aud-805670567:pla-4584619897188477_c__755504031&utm_custom2=412373112&msclkid=93149c89aa131af32c1efb1b3468d4cc

Yes they have inserts you can buy. I always made mine. Look on Amazon. They have many.

What I have done in the past was take some felt of color you want to use. Cut it to basic size to fit box but make it long. Now roll it up from both sides till they meet in the middle. Now you can trim some more to fit in the box with scissors. The fold is where the ring goes. Now you would want to adhere it to bottom of the box so it does not get pulled out. The toughest part I found was the shape of the box was a heart shape. So trimming was a little trickier. That was the basic way I did ring boxes because they were smaller. Now I have done other boxes using different methods too. I use foam under the felt and cut the foam and then wrap with felt making sure to form the felt into the crevices. Some boxes I just left it like a pillow in there. I do not have photos of ring boxes but maybe a photo or 2 of the other type boxes. Probably not because again I was not taking photos with a digital camera back then. Now some photos I converted but will see if I did any of those. I know I have one of the pool table pen box I did. Maybe the idea can be used for your situation and do not know why not. Sorry the photos are not that good in showing things and I could not find the one with the pool table and no pen in it but you get the idea. Just carve the foam and cover with felt. The same with the trinket boxes. I also did some religious cross boxes that I used same idea with felt but again those photos are on film only. I keep saying one day I will transfer alot of those but it would take some time. The roll of the felt was used on smaller ring boxes.

Good Eye.

Hegner never made a 15" saw that I know of.

yea it it looks easy to do that. Maybe he even painted it red. Maybe he had a Hegner stand and that is the reason he painted it to fool people.

It could be a Central but thought they were always green. But here is one in blue. The thing that is pointing to it is 15" Hegner did not make a 15" https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/353669347442055/

Great team to root for!!!! Your buddies got it right.