Clayton We will give the same advise as the previous question on value of a Hawk saw. These saws are all professional line saws. They are not beginners entry level saws. The Hawk line os saws in my opinion is top of the line. They have over the years taken their saws to new levels improving on things if problems arose with a current model. Some improvements are so minor the average person will not even know, This series G4 is the middle series in their line and its biggest improvement was the ability to top feed. These are again over $1200 saws so when you say cheap what are you talking. These saws will go for around $500 to $600 on the market. Is it a good deal?? You have to see the saw and be able to test saw. Does the motor run and sound good, does the VS work, does the air blowing system work, is the back blade tension cam look in good shape, does the front tension work and so on. Too many variables to say yes good deal. But are they worth the look. Absolutely. Here is a link for the BM series to show what improvements go on to give you an idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na5E18zXTZI