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No pictures but I built two rollovers or fliptops similar to Berry's a few years back. I think they are a must have for small workshops. I have my planer and joiner on one and my belt sander and oscillating spindle sander on the other one.

Looks great Don! I like the drawer slide idea. Might try to incorporate something like that into my down draft table setup. Thanks for showing us.

I agree that turned out great Frank. Thanks for showing us.

Thanks for the info trackman. I'm sure I wouldn't have as much suction as I have now with my 6.5 hp vac but it sure would keep the filter on the shop vac cleaner.

Yeah Dan I know their HP ratings are as phony as a 3 dollar bill but they don't list the amp draw in the advertising or specs. Right now I'm using the big Craftsman shop vac they rate at 6.5 HP. It does a very good job but I want to tie a wall mount shop vac to a cyclone and I'm trying to find out if what's available will do the job.

Is anyone using a 5 hp shop vac in conjunction with a cyclone such as a dust deputy? Does a 5 hp shop vac have adequate suction? I have been researching wall mount units and 5 hp is about the biggest I can find.

Travis is the saw you have now capable of being top fed? Are you a bottom feeder and if so is it by choice or necessity? I'm generally a bottom feeder by choice but with my current saw I have no choice. Just food for thought while you are considering a new saw. When I bought my Hegner I thought like you yeah, I don't like their bottom blade clamp system but I guess I can live with it. At the time I wasn't thinking about maybe in the future I might want to try projects that would be made much easier by top feeding. Now I have a case of buyers remorse but have to live with it. Just sayin.

God bless you Dick but I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not disputing that Steve's jig isn't worth while what I fail to understand is the need for it in the first place. Why is a scroll saw currently being designed that requires a removal of the blade clamp from the saw to change blades? That is my biggest beef with Hegner saws. I contacted Advanced Machinery a few years back and didn't get a satisfactory explanation. I'm not alone in my view on this subject. I agree there are different features about certain scroll saws that appeal to some but not others. I don't think if your willing to pay the piper that you shouldn't be able to buy one scroll saw that incorporates the best of all the features and functions users want. I wonder who Jet engineers conferred with to come out with a brand new scroll saw that 1. can only be bottom fed, 2. requires removing the lower blade holder to change or install a blade. In Hegners case I am lead to believe their attitude is take it or leave it. Maybe they are all that way just take it or leave it.

What I don't understand is as long as scroll saws have been made one would think they would have perfected a design with no short comings. It shouldn't be rocket science to design the almost perfect blade clamp for example. Something Rolf and I along with others agree is the cam style blade clamps that were on previous Delta models was a very good design. Why they discontinued it is a mystery to me. I have said it before and I'll say it again having to remove a blade clamp from a scroll saw to install a blade shouldn't be a necessary function.IMHO I would like an engineer to explain why this method is still being used.

Well I have been doing some more research on dust collection a have come to the conclusion a single stage wall mount dust collector in conjunction with a cyclone is not the answer to my small workshop. I have discovered that the only thing a shop vac and a dust collector have in common is they both suck. What and how they do it is very different indeed. A shop vac can draw up to 90 inches of vacuum while a dust collector is limited to 10-15 inches. A shop vac only draws about 100 cfm while a dust collector range is 600-2400 cfm. What this all means is for my small shop what I think will work the best and most economical is the most powerful wall mount vacuum I can find connected to a cyclone.

Rob I don't remember the size and thread of the tension rod on your Q3 but I believe it is probably the same as what was on my Delta P20. You might be able to replace it with a piece of threaded brass rod of the same size if that is all that is wrong with the saw.

As far as the 13' hose the only time it comes close to being stretched out that long is when I'm vacuuming the far end of the workshop floor. My biggest issue is the lack of real estate. I just don't have the room for my shop vac, a cyclone, and the required collector container. The 16 gallon shop vac has plenty of power and good suction especially with a clean filter but with a cyclone I surely wouldn't need 16 gallons of capacity for the minimal amount of fine dust created. My workshop is only 10'x 20' and I have a table saw, miter saw, floor model drill press, band saw, scroll saw, 2 turnovers, a 4' wide cabinet, a small workbench, a rolling toolbox, shelves, lumber rack, some misc. items and 2 doorways. I do have a space in one corner I could mount a small single stage wall mount dust collector with a cyclone and collector container below it on the floor. If this won't do the job I might be stuck with what I have now.

You are right Dan. As of now the shop vac does a fairly good job but the filter does get clogged and it is very noisy. I know nothing about static pressure, CFM ratings, air flow, and negative pressure. I'm just trying to find out if a combination of a 1HP single stage wall mount dust collector in conjunction with a cyclone collector like a Dust Deputy will work as well or better than what I'm using now.

Thanks Rolf I hadn't considered the negative pressure aspect. I sure don't want to get overcome with carbon monoxide. Yes the shop vac is quite noisy even though it does have a muffler. I do use hearing protection though.

This is why I started this post Don. I hope more members respond because I won't do the project if it isn't going to work properly. I don't know much about this subject and am hoping to learn from others experiences. One thought I had was by eliminating the filter bag I would cut down on resistance to air movement. Like I said I have blast gates and only have one tool connected at a time.

Yeah Rob that is what I thought too. About the only discharge would be from sanding as I have a downdraft table and a connection to my sanders,

I have a 6.5 hp 16 gallon shop vac I am using for sawdust collection, I mounted a manifold on the wall with several blast gates to hook up to various tools. I have a small shop so I also have several tools mounted on turnovers to conserve space. I use a 2 1/2 " flex hose that stretches out from 3' to about 16' to attach to the tools on the turnovers. I am thinking about buying a wall hanging dust collector to use with a cyclone like a dust deputy. I am also thinking of rather than using the filter bag piping the discharge out the back wall of my garage. I live in the country with no close neighbors. By using the dust deputy I would not be discharging large particle sawdust. I realize I will be discharging some of my heat in the winter time but I generally don't operate the sawdust collection for long periods of time so that shouldn't be a big issue. I am thinking the collector would operate more efficiently and I wouldn't have a filter bag to service. All comments or ideas welcome.

Yes John I still have mine and just bought and replaced the filter. I use it along with a box fan and filter. I also always use a respirator while making dust.

Wow Brad you make my few issues seem so insignificant in comparison to what you have been through. Sorry to hear of all the health issues you have had to work through. I certainly hope the future holds better days ahead.

In the upper right hand corner there is a search box. Just type in Pegas blades and you will find several threads on them.

So far I have only tried the #5 Pegas modified geometry blades for thicker hardwoods and they work really well. They are more aggressive then FD-UR or FD-SR blades but not overly so for thicker, 3/4"-- 2" hardwoods. They seem to stay sharper and last longer.

Well Brad I have a bad back, and ole Arthur has come to visit in my hands and decided to stay. I have my limitations but it is what it is. I think you would do well to listen to the doctor and don't over do it. My oldest and youngest brothers both had back surgery many years ago. The oldest followed the doctor's instructions and did quite well. The youngest didn't go slow in recovery and as a result has had 6 surgeries including two fusions. He now can't even put socks on or tie his shoes. My dad used to say this getting old stuff ain't for sissies but he took care of himself, listened to his body, and lived to be 91. I think he figured it out just about right. Good luck with your recovery.

Don't be afraid of showing your projects that one turned out great. Nice choice of woods they contrast real well. That friend of the family should be pleased. It seems a shame to cover up the cowboy and cowgirl with a tablet though. Just kidding!

I have several Delta brand woodworking tools but when they basically turned my Delta P20 scroll saw into a boat anchor I said enough. Any company that doesn't support their products loses my trust. The days of counting on a company to stand behind their products or brands long term are a thing of the past but between these two saws I would defiantly go with the Dewalt.