backer board glue

[jerry walters]

I have never used a backer board before. My question is what kind of glue to use.  My understanding is that glue does not stick well to stained or painted wood.  I'm certain some glues are better than others. This is for indoor projects.

Jerry

Edited February 20, 2023 by jerry walters

[barb.j.enders]

I use a white craft glue or titebond wood glue. I haven't had an issue with it sticking to painted/stained wood.  If you are concerned, just sand a few spots.

[Scrappile]

I purchased some Weld Bond to try and I really like it.  It is tacker when first applied so things do move around as much as I experience with Titebond.  Says it sticked toalmost anything, I have used it on lacquered wood and with felt and have had no problem so far.  Dries clear.

 

[Dan]

Since it's for indoor use, you could try double-sided tape. Get the good stuff, the kind used in woodturning. It can be a pain to work with sometimes but it'll stick to any surface: painted, stained, raw wood, and skin.

[Roberta Moreton]

I also use craft glue. No issues 

[Norm Fengstad]

I use a tite bond that is white color but dries clear that works for me

[Bill WIlson]

Depends on the size of the area that needs glue applied.  For really small areas, such as in the middle of a portrait, I will often use gel super glue.  For larger areas, I like to use Aleene's Tacky Glue.

[Blaughn]

After I finish cutting the plaque, I put masking tape on the reverse side of the plaque where the pattern and cuts allow.  I place matching pieces on the backerboard.  I then apply the finish to the plaque.  When this is done, I spray the backerboard with flat black.  When everything has had sufficient time to dry I strip the masking tape off of both pieces and use Titebond III to adhere the two pieces.  I place the finished plaque face down on on a very clean tablesaw table covered with wax paper.  I strip off the masking tape off the plaque and the backerboard, apply Titebond III and use some weights on the backer board to hold the two together until the glue is cured. This gives plenty of clear wood for the Titebond to do its work.

[dgman]

Like Bill, I use Aleen’s Tacky Glue. I’ve never had a failure! You can find it at any craft store.

[ChelCass]

Guess I'm the only one who uses E6000.  Dries clear, leaves plenty of time to position your piece and once dry it sticks like crazy.  I have used it on painted, unpainted and even glass when I do my stained glass.  Never a problem.

[MarieC]

On 2/20/2023 at 7:41 AM, Dan said:

Since it's for indoor use, you could try double-sided tape. Get the good stuff, the kind used in woodturning. It can be a pain to work with sometimes but it'll stick to any surface: painted, stained, raw wood, and skin.

Dan, what would be considered the "Good stuff".  I have been looking for some strong double sided tape...mine is junk.  Marie

[JessL]

6 hours ago, ChelCass said:

Guess I'm the only one who uses E6000.  Dries clear, leaves plenty of time to position your piece and once dry it sticks like crazy.  I have used it on painted, unpainted and even glass when I do my stained glass.  Never a problem.

I never thought to use it.  I have a huge tube of it that I use for beaded jewelry making. Never once thought to use it on my wood projects.  Thanks for this!

[jerry walters]

20 hours ago, Blaughn said:

After I finish cutting the plaque, I put masking tape on the reverse side of the plaque where the pattern and cuts allow.  I place matching pieces on the backerboard.  I then apply the finish to the plaque.  When this is done, I spray the backerboard with flat black.  When everything has had sufficient time to dry I strip the masking tape off of both pieces and use Titebond III to adhere the two pieces.  I place the finished plaque face down on on a very clean tablesaw table covered with wax paper.  I strip off the masking tape off the plaque and the backerboard, apply Titebond III and use some weights on the backer board to hold the two together until the glue is cured. This gives plenty of clear wood for the Titebond to do its work.

Bruce, I have done as you do with most of my projects, but with fret work that you want to put a backer board on and there is a lot of cuts, how do you know where to put the glue/painter tape? What I see is to put the glue on the fret work, but where do you put the glue on the backer board. The only way I see is to put the glue on the back of the fret work then place the painted backer board on the back of the fret work. Place enough clamps on the project until the glue had thoroughly dried and hope for the best. I was initially concerned about putting a backer board on military emblems, but think I have idea what to do about that. Should be able to use your solution easy enough.

Jerry

[Dave Monk]

On a project like this I have used 3M spray glue.

[Dave Monk]

9 hours ago, MarieC said:

Dan, what would be considered the "Good stuff".  I have been looking for some strong double sided tape...mine is junk.  Marie

I'm not Dan but I use this for lots of different things. https://www.woodworkingshop.com/search/?search_query=double sided tape

[jerry walters]

1 hour ago, Dave Monk said:

On a project like this I have used 3M spray glue.

Dave, never thought of using spray glue. Use it all the time for attach patterns, never thought of using it on backer boards. Just didn't think it had strong enough hold. Thanks for the trip. May do it some day.

[kmmcrafts]

9 hours ago, Dave Monk said:

I'm not Dan but I use this for lots of different things. https://www.woodworkingshop.com/search/?search_query=double sided tape

Doesn't the spray get all in the fret cuts? You must be spraying the back of the fret piece otherwise if you sprayed the backer itself it's be all sticky, visible and be a dust dirt magnet. I've seen this mentioned before but I haven't been brave enough to ruin hours of work to try it, 

 

[kmmcrafts]

I have used Aleen’s Tacky Glue, Weldbond and many other regular wood glues like Tite Bond translucent etc with okay results. I have had some regular glues fail mostly because it wasn't weighted / clamped great. I do like the Weldbond best for this purpose. 

I have a piece of plastic  (similar to the plastic cutting boards) that I pour the glue on and then I use a plastic spreader https://www.harborfreight.com/plastic-spreader-set-3-piece-69563.html?_br_psugg_q=plastic+spreader to spread a thin layer of glue around on the cutting board like plastic sheet. I take the project and lay it on the spread out glue ( make sure you have the right side your dipping into the glue or you'll say some naughty words ). This is about the easiest and quickest way to get the glue spread out onto the back of the backer.. especially if you stack cut and have several glue ups to do.  Once done you can just wash the glue off the plastic board and spreader for the next time. Some have mentioned using wax paper etc. One time I ran out of wax paper just used a garbage sack and laid it out on the table to spread the glue onto..  

[Dave Monk]

29 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

Doesn't the spray get all in the fret cuts? You must be spraying the back of the fret piece otherwise if you sprayed the backer itself it's be all sticky, visible and be a dust dirt magnet. I've seen this mentioned before but I haven't been brave enough to ruin hours of work to try it, 

 

I make the backer a bit larger than the fret work.  Spray the back of the fret work. Place it on the backer. Trim the backer to the fret work. 

[BadBob]

If the backer board is painted, use an adhesive.

If the backer board is bare wood, use glue.

[jerry walters]

Just a quick note to thank all of you for your answers. You are great!!! Anxious to try my new found skills, To each of you. I wish you all a very Happy Easter.

Jerry

 

[tomsteve]

ive been using medium CA glue for quite a few years. run a bead around the perimeter  of the fretwork then a dab here and there. set it on the backer and weight it down for a couple of minutes. great adhesion to paint and stain.

[jerry walters]

42 minutes ago, tomsteve said:

ive been using medium CA glue for quite a few years. run a bead around the perimeter  of the fretwork then a dab here and there. set it on the backer and weight it down for a couple of minutes. great adhesion to paint and stain.

I hear the term medium CA glue. Don't want to appear stupid, but what is medium CA glue.

Jerry

[Bill WIlson]

CA glue comes in several different viscosities, thin, medium and thick (or gel).  

[Wichman]

I use gorilla glue ( polyurethane ) to attach backers. Some of my items are indoor and some are outdoor, but the Gorilla glue is bullet proof.

I use a foam rubber roller (the small one 1/2" diameter and either 2 or 4 inch long depending on the size of the project ). Using a disposable pan I roll a very light coat of glue on the roller and then apply to the fretwork piece. Place the fretwork on the backer, be careful!, set weights on the piece and allow to cure.

I used this technique on the following projects, no squeeze out no expansion squeeze out.